Thread: Gemstar Honing Video-Attention GSsixgun!

Thanx Gssixgun! How does one prevent the Nagura slurry from contaminating the 8K if you're using the pyramid method? Does one just rinse off the 4K before flipping the stone over to 8K? Lastly, how many light strokes on the Naniwa 12K do you recommend before taking the razor to the leather strop? Great forum!-Gearhead

q: How does one prevent the Nagura slurry from contaminating the 8K if you're using the pyramid method? Does one just rinse off the 4K before flipping the stone over to 8K?
a: Yes rinse it, you should be done with the bevel set (and the Prep stone) before you start the Pyramid if you are using the same system as I am, if you are trying to combine the Heavy system in the Wiki with the system I outlined you are going to confuse yourself, pick one system and stick with it until you get at least one razor shaving comfortably using the N4/8..


q: Lastly, how many light strokes on the Naniwa 12K do you recommend before taking the razor to the leather strop?
a: I don't... I recommend you leave the Naniwa 12k in the drawer until you can get the 8k shaving well,, My general rule of starting with an unknown finisher however is to start with 10 laps then test shave so you have a baseline reading, then you can adjust up or down from there..

Dear Gssixgun-Thanx again for the quick and detailed reply. As much as I wanted to incorporate your Nagura technique into the Wiki heavy system , I did not. Was able to get a shaveable edge starting at 15 strokes on the Norton 4K, as all three razors had decent bevels to begin with. As with the Nagura, I stayed away from the Naniwa 12 K for now, and went to the felt/leather Big Daddy strop after the Norton 8K. Edges could still be sharper though, IMHO. Received a like new 2 line Swaty today and was amazed at how fast I got a shaveable edge on my $8.00 Golden Monkey doing just 7 or so strokes on the Swaty with shaving soap! Like the other three razors, the Golden Monkey already had a bevel from some other attempts at honing-Gearhead

Sham's opinion of the naniwa 12000 is on his forum razorandstone. He is saying that you can ruin an edge with it if you do not know when to stop as it cuts faster than a natural stone. I dont think he is saying it is a bad stone.

He says the same about shapton glass stones past 8000.

Originally Posted by Disburden

Sham's opinion of the naniwa 12000 is on his forum razorandstone. He is saying that you can ruin an edge with it if you do not know when to stop as it cuts faster than a natural stone. I dont think he is saying it is a bad stone.

He says the same about shapton glass stones past 8000.

Not sure what Sham's point is as presented, but I think that one of the nice things about both the Naniwa SS 12K and the Shapton Glass 16K is that they are very precise. I normally don't use more than 10 strokes on either with minimal pressure and am very pleased with the results consistently. I normally with use 10 strokes as my standard for finishing with both a Coticule and an Escher as well and in my opinion, all four of the stones mentioned will burr an edge if too many strokes are used.

Have fun.