Thread: Straight razor sharpening and my Edge Pro - Pic intensive

Mario,

Sounds like you sell these or have some kind of vested interest. I was at Woodcraft recently looking at different things, among them, Sharpening systems. Lot's of them out there. I really didn't see anything that would work for straight razors.

They didn't have, or I didn't see the EP Apex system. I haven't used the EP system, but I'd have to go with Lynn's findings. I would like some kind of setup for my knives.

Originally Posted by Mario

@ Bob-

The cliche "Many ways to skin a cat" comes to mind after reading your response. Again I don't see a "problem". At no one point did I suggest anyone buy an Edge Pro. I was just sharing my experience. If you would like to discuss what I think an Edge Pro adds to the table I would be more than happy to discuss it offline.

m-

I already gave you that there is more than one way to skin a cat, obviously, you got what you wanted from the set, an edge honed to your satisfaction. No argument there, never was. Also never said you suggested anyone buy an edge pro. I did say that from reading this thread my personal take is that I would not buy an edge pro as I see no advantage in it for me as I already have hones and that works for me. If I did not have a system to hone my SRs already or were into knives that could be a different story. What is there to say off line that can't be put forth in this thread?

Bob

After all the reading and considering I can only come up with one word......Nope

Originally Posted by 10Pups

After all the reading and considering I can only come up with one word......Nope

Yup.

No offense, but this is like a Rube Goldberg of razor honing.

I've been buying quite a few eBay specials just to try honing on different blades. Almost all of them have been in the 10$ range.
I have a bunch of different stones that I use in combination and strops with various pastes.
I've, to no ones surprise, have found that no one combination works well on all blades. I find the possibility of a One Shot Does All System intriguing and find these reviews very worth while. Even knowing deep down in my heart that there's just not going to be a Coupe de Ville at the bottom of that Cracker Jack box!

Originally Posted by BobH

What is there to say off line that can't be put forth in this thread?

Bob

I just wanted to chat about technique offline. That is it. I did not want to clutter this thread with talk about reproducible angles, micro bevels, angle comfort, blade wear etc.

@ Zib-

Vested interest? Of course I have a vested interest. I bought this system and I am trying it out on straight razors. I know it works on my knives in various sizes, shapes, and steels. I find it interesting that you decided to take this thread into a path where I may have something other than sharing my experience with others.

Also, you make mention that: "I really didn't see anything that would work for straight razors. "

This is based on trial and error on your part?

m-

Originally Posted by unit

Yup.

No offense, but this is like a Rube Goldberg of razor honing.

Aye


Rube Goldberg
The "Self-Operating Napkin" is activated when soup spoon (A) is raised to mouth, pulling string (B) and thereby jerking ladle (C), which throws cracker (D) past parrot (E). Parrot jumps after cracker and perch (F) tilts, upsetting seeds (G) into pail (H). Extra weight in pail pulls cord (I), which opens and lights automatic cigar lighter (J), setting off skyrocket (K) which causes sickle (L) to cut string (M) and allow pendulum with attached napkin to swing back and forth, thereby wiping chin.

In 1931, the Merriam–Webster dictionary adopted the word "Rube Goldberg" as an adjective defined as accomplishing something simple through complex means.

Originally Posted by Mario

I just wanted to chat about technique offline. That is it. I did not want to clutter this thread with talk about reproducible angles, micro bevels, angle comfort, blade wear etc.

Why would you not want to talk about that??? That is what these discussions are about.. Going back to The first posts in the thread we still don't even know what grit yer honing with, as the numbers that were presented are WAY off...
see post #10 your numbers that you presented...

So basically all we have read is "Wow this works Great, Wow this shaves Great" all from a system that nobody else thinks all that highly of for razors..

Originally Posted by gssixgun

Why would you not want to talk about that??? That is what these discussions are about.. Going back to The first posts in the thread we still don't even know what grit yer honing with, as the numbers that were presented are WAY off...

How are they way off? I contacted the mfg and the verified the tape name to micron level.

Here is a chart showing a breakdown.

http://img440.imageshack.us/img440/6276/gcrevd.png

Is the chart correct? It lines up with what the mfg. of the polishing tapes said.

2k tape = 9.00 micron
3k tape = 3.00 micron
6k tape = 1.00 micron

Since I do not have my angle block yet, I will ask this question:

What angle (inclusive) bevel is a good baseline to start at? The angle being set by the spine is set to something. However, that angle changes after several honing session due to the simple fact of abrasion.

m-

2k tape = This tape is the same as a 20,000 grit Japanese water stone or 9 micron. *Taken from EP's website
3k tape = This tape is the same as a 25,000 grit Japanese water stone or 3 micron. *Taken from EP's website
6k tape = This tape is the same as a 30,000 grit Japanese water stone, or 1 micron. *Taken from EP's website


This is incorrect, do the research

What angle (inclusive) bevel is a good baseline to start at? The angle being set by the spine is set to something. However, that angle changes after several honing session due to the simple fact of abrasion.


This is a misconception on your part

This is why everyone was asking questions, they were hoping you would go look and learn, without having to point blank say your "facts" are wrong...

PS: all this info is available in the Honing forum here on SRP one simply has to read it