Thread: Bevel set or Finisher problem ?

Originally Posted by mainaman

so what keeps you from redoing with jnat slurry stone?

Good point and very true. I don't really know I guess I just wanted to try the other stone and see what it came out like. I did finish off on the Zulu Grey slurry stone, and it did break down. I went from muddy water to clear water and then just stropped. I am going to use the razor either tonight or tomorrow and I will keep everyone posted on how it worked- or didn't work for that matter! It seems good but I guess you never really know until you test it. I am just really playing around with some of my blades just to get the feeling of honing correctly, using different strokes and techniques that I learned on here mostly. I thank you guys for your responses they always help!
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Originally Posted by anthogia

Good point and very true. I don't really know I guess I just wanted to try the other stone and see what it came out like. I did finish off on the Zulu Grey slurry stone, and it did break down. I went from muddy water to clear water and then just stropped. I am going to use the razor either tonight or tomorrow and I will keep everyone posted on how it worked- or didn't work for that matter! It seems good but I guess you never really know until you test it. I am just really playing around with some of my blades just to get the feeling of honing correctly, using different strokes and techniques that I learned on here mostly. I thank you guys for your responses they always help!
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We have no evidence that that happens with the Zulu gray stones. Experimenting with various combinations will teach you a lot of things, so don't be afraid to try.

Originally Posted by mainaman

We have no evidence that that happens with the Zulu gray stones. Experimenting with various combinations will teach you a lot of things, so don't be afraid to try.

I love to play around with my stones and to get feedback from the community!. I don't understand though- we have no evidence of what?

If you mean breakdown I understand. I wouldn't say it broke down like a jnat slurry- more of a dilution than a breakdown.

Originally Posted by anthogia

I love to play around with my stones and to get feedback from the community!. I don't understand though- we have no evidence of what?

That the Zulu gray slurry breaks down with use

Originally Posted by mainaman

That the Zulu gray slurry breaks down with use

It doesn't breakdown like a jnat slurry- kinda like that slurry looks like curdled milk- but it does dilute for sure, but most everything dilutes in this world so that's not saying much. I understand exactly what you're saying now and you're right for the most part. I really don't remember it breaking down the way you're talking about but I will def check the next time! Thanks main for helping me understand!

I use a shobudani asagi too, and I got the best results with it using a little amount of slurry. It is a bit decieving, because with water only it doesn't do too much, but with some slurry it is lightning fast. You have to experiment, but in my experience with Jnats it is best to start with a medium slurry, than work your way to water, and see where your edge gets best in the journey.

Originally Posted by anthogia

Quick question to you jnat experts- I am VERY new to honing but just picked up a small shuobudani jnat. I'm going to use the stone as a polisher. Would I get a smoother edge with, or without, the slurry? Is the grit range higher or lower with slurry? Thanks in advance for any and all responses- as a newb I really count on the forum alot for intelligent advice!
All the best,
Tony

You realise you've told us nothing more than the mine your stone came from . Is it actually a razor finisher ?
Unless you can ask the seller if he has tested the stone & how, 1. try with & without slurry, then tell us what worked & 2. The grit range will be dependent on the slurry stone's grit unless you use an exact Tomo or diamond plate then the grit is unchanged tho often cuts faster due to more particle exposure.

Ok, this question goes out to everyone but id particularly like to hear from the guys I discussed this before with. A little background: I'm new to honing having successfully honed only two full hollow straights. So I honed a genco wedge on my naniwas to shave ready and I wanted to finish it on a smooth jnat of undetermined (obviously) grit. I did about 90- 100 laps using thick, down to no slurry. I shaved with it just now and while I got a dfs, it was not smooth and tended to pull a little. I need to add I was playing around with the stone and made a slurry with a Zulu grey natural. Why didn't I get a good shave? Take away all the other variables- stropping, angle of attack, lather- as im pretty sure they're all good. What do you guys think went wrong and what should I do now to correct the blade? Btw, I stropped 30 on crox and 120 on leather. My question,is out to any and all takers and I thank anyone who responds in advance!
Tony

Originally Posted by onimaru55

You realise you've told us nothing more than the mine your stone came from . Is it actually a razor finisher ?
Unless you can ask the seller if he has tested the stone & how, 1. try with & without slurry, then tell us what worked & 2. The grit range will be dependent on the slurry stone's grit unless you use an exact Tomo or diamond plate then the grit is unchanged tho often cuts faster due to more particle exposure.

Im glad you asked, please remember I'm extremely new to honing and see my latest post. I understand what you're saying so that actually helps me slot! Thank you onimaru! See if you can decipher more from what I just wrote and thanks again.
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