Thread: Tamahagane with other kanji???

Hi!

I've posted this a while ago:

http://straightrazorpalace.com/razor...-kamisori.html

During honing I discovered these features, does it look like Tamahagane to you???

Or something else?

Thanks!

I hate to show how dumb I am when it comes to this but ........ what features did you discover ? Are we looking at the scratch pattern ? Mainaman can probably tell you as much as anyone on this. Shoot him a PM with a link to the post if he doesn't reply to it soon.

The pattern certainly looks like tamehagane; I had the pleasure to spend some time with a sword made in such a manner once and it looked like that. However I'm also noticing scratches; it could be a really clever fake. Maybe a higher magnification...?

Find it hard to believe anyone could tell it is Tamahagane just by looking at the steel.
Is any Kanji present??

Originally Posted by pixelfixed

Find it hard to believe anyone could tell it is Tamahagane just by looking at the steel.
Is any Kanji present??

pixelfixed, I'll certainly bow to expert knowledge, here; I'm working on the assumption of a relatively accurate Wikipedia article on Tamahagane and my own experience with folded-steel katana. The striations match what I'd seen on folded-steel swords and what research had led me to believe was the telltale sign of traditional manufacture (or, as I said, they could just plain be scratches).
Another alternative is that it's steel from a source other than traditional red sands but still manufactured in the traditional way.
Bugei Trading Company makes swords after this fashion; they use the tamahagane folding method but use old railroad tracks for stock.
Whoever made this kamisori is pretty damn good or an ingenious faker.

I may be mistaken but I believe Tamahgane is a type of steel,not a technique.

Originally Posted by DarthLord

pixelfixed, I'll certainly bow to expert knowledge, here; I'm working on the assumption of a relatively accurate Wikipedia article on Tamahagane and my own experience with folded-steel katana. The striations match what I'd seen on folded-steel swords and what research had led me to believe was the telltale sign of traditional manufacture (or, as I said, they could just plain be scratches).
Another alternative is that it's steel from a source other than traditional red sands but still manufactured in the traditional way.
Bugei Trading Company makes swords after this fashion; they use the tamahagane folding method but use old railroad tracks for stock.
Whoever made this kamisori is pretty damn good or an ingenious faker.

The kamisori, in the pic is showing the Omote side where the main steel is actually soft iron, that has been forged enough to form layers.
You get that kind of effect on high quality Japanese forged knives that are not made from tamahagane.

here is a very nice example of the effect:

Originally Posted by DarthLord

The pattern certainly looks like tamehagane; I had the pleasure to spend some time with a sword made in such a manner once and it looked like that. However I'm also noticing scratches; it could be a really clever fake. Maybe a higher magnification...?

Will post more pics at the end of the progression

Tamahagane steel is a big deal and makes the razor worth much much more, if it were it would be stamped so..

It looks like you were trying to get the Kanji translated I would pursue that route, it would be much more conclusive

Originally Posted by gssixgun

Tamahagane steel is a big deal and makes the razor worth much much more, if it were it would be stamped so..

It looks like you were trying to get the Kanji translated I would pursue that route, it would be much more conclusive

Thank you very much for your response! Indeed, I did try, BUT it seems to be a hard one to figure out...
Hopefully the mystery can be solved!
Have you seen such "wave-marks" on razors before?

Deepest respect!