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    Hi!

    I've posted this a while ago:

    http://straightrazorpalace.com/razor...-kamisori.html

    During honing I discovered these features, does it look like Tamahagane to you???

    Or something else?

    Thanks!

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    I hate to show how dumb I am when it comes to this but ........ what features did you discover ? Are we looking at the scratch pattern ? Mainaman can probably tell you as much as anyone on this. Shoot him a PM with a link to the post if he doesn't reply to it soon.

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    The pattern certainly looks like tamehagane; I had the pleasure to spend some time with a sword made in such a manner once and it looked like that. However I'm also noticing scratches; it could be a really clever fake. Maybe a higher magnification...?

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    Find it hard to believe anyone could tell it is Tamahagane just by looking at the steel.
    Is any Kanji present??

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    Quote Originally Posted by pixelfixed View Post
    Find it hard to believe anyone could tell it is Tamahagane just by looking at the steel.
    Is any Kanji present??
    pixelfixed, I'll certainly bow to expert knowledge, here; I'm working on the assumption of a relatively accurate Wikipedia article on Tamahagane and my own experience with folded-steel katana. The striations match what I'd seen on folded-steel swords and what research had led me to believe was the telltale sign of traditional manufacture (or, as I said, they could just plain be scratches).
    Another alternative is that it's steel from a source other than traditional red sands but still manufactured in the traditional way.
    Bugei Trading Company makes swords after this fashion; they use the tamahagane folding method but use old railroad tracks for stock.
    Whoever made this kamisori is pretty damn good or an ingenious faker.

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    I may be mistaken but I believe Tamahgane is a type of steel,not a technique.

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    Quote Originally Posted by pixelfixed View Post
    I may be mistaken but I believe Tamahgane is a type of steel,not a technique.
    We clearly need an actual expert; :lol: I am not either. You could as easily be right as I!
    However, my other point remains: that's folded metal right there. Someone put a lot of work and art into that kamisori. It may not be tamahagane but I'd say it's a really nice blade.





    ...actually it sucks. Send it to me for proper disposal.
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    Quote Originally Posted by JimmyHAD View Post
    I hate to show how dumb I am when it comes to this but ........ what features did you discover ? Are we looking at the scratch pattern ? Mainaman can probably tell you as much as anyone on this. Shoot him a PM with a link to the post if he doesn't reply to it soon.
    No problem!,no "dumbness" at all spotted!

    I should be more patience and wait until the end, so that the scratches were gone...
    The issue is about the "waves", going along, parallel with the edge/spine

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    Quote Originally Posted by DarthLord View Post
    The pattern certainly looks like tamehagane; I had the pleasure to spend some time with a sword made in such a manner once and it looked like that. However I'm also noticing scratches; it could be a really clever fake. Maybe a higher magnification...?
    Will post more pics at the end of the progression

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    Tamahagane steel is a big deal and makes the razor worth much much more, if it were it would be stamped so..

    It looks like you were trying to get the Kanji translated I would pursue that route, it would be much more conclusive

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