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Thread: Tamahagane with other kanji???
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10-23-2013, 03:01 PM #1
I hate to show how dumb I am when it comes to this but ........ what features did you discover ? Are we looking at the scratch pattern ? Mainaman can probably tell you as much as anyone on this. Shoot him a PM with a link to the post if he doesn't reply to it soon.
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Fikira (10-23-2013)
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10-23-2013, 03:20 PM #2
The pattern certainly looks like tamehagane; I had the pleasure to spend some time with a sword made in such a manner once and it looked like that. However I'm also noticing scratches; it could be a really clever fake. Maybe a higher magnification...?
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10-23-2013, 03:26 PM #3
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Thanked: 2027Find it hard to believe anyone could tell it is Tamahagane just by looking at the steel.
Is any Kanji present??
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10-23-2013, 03:43 PM #4
pixelfixed, I'll certainly bow to expert knowledge, here; I'm working on the assumption of a relatively accurate Wikipedia article on Tamahagane and my own experience with folded-steel katana. The striations match what I'd seen on folded-steel swords and what research had led me to believe was the telltale sign of traditional manufacture (or, as I said, they could just plain be scratches).
Another alternative is that it's steel from a source other than traditional red sands but still manufactured in the traditional way.
Bugei Trading Company makes swords after this fashion; they use the tamahagane folding method but use old railroad tracks for stock.
Whoever made this kamisori is pretty damn good or an ingenious faker.
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Fikira (10-23-2013)
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10-23-2013, 04:01 PM #5
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Thanked: 2027I may be mistaken but I believe Tamahgane is a type of steel,not a technique.
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10-23-2013, 04:06 PM #6
We clearly need an actual expert; :lol: I am not either. You could as easily be right as I!
However, my other point remains: that's folded metal right there. Someone put a lot of work and art into that kamisori. It may not be tamahagane but I'd say it's a really nice blade.
...actually it sucks. Send it to me for proper disposal.
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10-23-2013, 05:18 PM #7
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10-23-2013, 08:44 PM #8
I believe this threat could help
http://straightrazorpalace.com/japan...amahagane.html
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10-27-2013, 10:39 AM #9
Yes, but...
Yes, It it a type of steel. But in its raw form, it is unuasable crap. It has to be forgewelded and folded several times before it becomes good steel. The folding process always goes with the tamahagane. The folding itself can leave folding scars, which are basically lengthwise inclusions. And the folding also leaves a pattern of faint lines also running lengthwise.
EDIT: I notice that Mike already wrote the same, thing, only more comprehensiveTil shade is gone, til water is gone, Into the shadow with teeth bared, screaming defiance with the last breath.
To spit in Sightblinder’s eye on the Last Day
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10-27-2013, 10:56 AM #10