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Fikira Tamahagane with other kanji??? 10-23-2013, 02:45 PM
JimmyHAD I hate to show how dumb I am... 10-23-2013, 03:01 PM
DarthLord The pattern certainly looks... 10-23-2013, 03:20 PM
pixelfixed Find it hard to believe... 10-23-2013, 03:26 PM
DarthLord pixelfixed, I'll certainly... 10-23-2013, 03:43 PM
pixelfixed I may be mistaken but I... 10-23-2013, 04:01 PM
DarthLord We clearly need an actual... 10-23-2013, 04:06 PM
JimmyHAD You be right. It is a special... 10-23-2013, 05:18 PM
Fikira I believe this threat could... 10-23-2013, 08:44 PM
Bruno Yes, but... Yes, It it a... 10-27-2013, 10:39 AM
mainaman The kamisori, in the pic is... 10-23-2013, 09:02 PM
DarthLord Now that is just beautiful! 10-23-2013, 09:03 PM
Fikira Very very interesting indeed!... 10-23-2013, 09:06 PM
Fikira Will post more pics at the... 10-23-2013, 05:00 PM
gssixgun Tamahagane steel is a big... 10-23-2013, 05:05 PM
Fikira Thank you very much for your... 10-23-2013, 08:30 PM
gssixgun Yes in fact I have seen it on... 10-23-2013, 10:12 PM
Fikira Hehe! Indeed, I get your... 10-24-2013, 10:36 AM
Fikira The idea of Tamahagane never... 10-23-2013, 08:26 PM
Fikira No problem!,no "dumbness" at... 10-23-2013, 04:59 PM
Fikira PM send, thank you very much! 10-23-2013, 08:37 PM
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    I hate to show how dumb I am when it comes to this but ........ what features did you discover ? Are we looking at the scratch pattern ? Mainaman can probably tell you as much as anyone on this. Shoot him a PM with a link to the post if he doesn't reply to it soon.

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    The pattern certainly looks like tamehagane; I had the pleasure to spend some time with a sword made in such a manner once and it looked like that. However I'm also noticing scratches; it could be a really clever fake. Maybe a higher magnification...?

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    Find it hard to believe anyone could tell it is Tamahagane just by looking at the steel.
    Is any Kanji present??

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    Quote Originally Posted by pixelfixed View Post
    Find it hard to believe anyone could tell it is Tamahagane just by looking at the steel.
    Is any Kanji present??
    pixelfixed, I'll certainly bow to expert knowledge, here; I'm working on the assumption of a relatively accurate Wikipedia article on Tamahagane and my own experience with folded-steel katana. The striations match what I'd seen on folded-steel swords and what research had led me to believe was the telltale sign of traditional manufacture (or, as I said, they could just plain be scratches).
    Another alternative is that it's steel from a source other than traditional red sands but still manufactured in the traditional way.
    Bugei Trading Company makes swords after this fashion; they use the tamahagane folding method but use old railroad tracks for stock.
    Whoever made this kamisori is pretty damn good or an ingenious faker.

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    I may be mistaken but I believe Tamahgane is a type of steel,not a technique.

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    Quote Originally Posted by pixelfixed View Post
    I may be mistaken but I believe Tamahgane is a type of steel,not a technique.
    We clearly need an actual expert; :lol: I am not either. You could as easily be right as I!
    However, my other point remains: that's folded metal right there. Someone put a lot of work and art into that kamisori. It may not be tamahagane but I'd say it's a really nice blade.





    ...actually it sucks. Send it to me for proper disposal.
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    Quote Originally Posted by pixelfixed View Post
    I may be mistaken but I believe Tamahgane is a type of steel,not a technique.
    You be right. It is a special alloy produced in a special way. As 6 gun said, pricey for the real McCoy.

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    Quote Originally Posted by pixelfixed View Post
    I may be mistaken but I believe Tamahgane is a type of steel,not a technique.
    I believe this threat could help

    http://straightrazorpalace.com/japan...amahagane.html

    Kindest regards

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    Quote Originally Posted by pixelfixed View Post
    I may be mistaken but I believe Tamahgane is a type of steel,not a technique.
    Yes, but...

    Yes, It it a type of steel. But in its raw form, it is unuasable crap. It has to be forgewelded and folded several times before it becomes good steel. The folding process always goes with the tamahagane. The folding itself can leave folding scars, which are basically lengthwise inclusions. And the folding also leaves a pattern of faint lines also running lengthwise.

    EDIT: I notice that Mike already wrote the same, thing, only more comprehensive
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bruno View Post
    Yes, but...

    Yes, It it a type of steel. But in its raw form, it is unuasable crap. It has to be forgewelded and folded several times before it becomes good steel. The folding process always goes with the tamahagane. The folding itself can leave folding scars, which are basically lengthwise inclusions. And the folding also leaves a pattern of faint lines also running lengthwise.

    EDIT: I notice that Mike already wrote the same, thing, only more comprehensive
    So, tamahagane is always folded BUT
    folded isn't always tamahagane

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