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Thread: Evidence of Filarmonica Manufactured in Solingen?????

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    Indeed, I had a thought that the pile of scales in Germany might well be replacements made for German fellows who love their Filarmonicas and abhor the blue and green Filly scales made from recycled Spanish detergent bottles! (kidding! )
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    I have a question, I'm not a lawyer, but we all know that after the 1890 act that required the country of origin mark, for instance, Wade and Butcher razors being marked with or without the England stamp being used to determine the date range.

    Many of the Filarmonica's have, "Made in Spain" stamped on them. If in fact they were made in Germany, which I'm completely open to, wouldn't they be marked, "Made in Germany", or perhaps the Solingen mark would indicate country of manufacture?

    Now, I just went and looked at a few of my Filarmonica's, I looked at two DT's, one has, "Made in Spain" stamped on one side of the tang with the JMP Doble Temple on the other side, and the other has the JMP Doble Temple, but on the other side, where the, "Made in Spain" mark is on the other one, it is blank - no mark - nothing?

    Interesting?

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    IIRC the stipulation to mark country of origin on cutlery stemmed from a treaty, and was not an international law ....... AFAIK. Still most of them did adhere to it ....... AFAIK. Now Solingen themselves had stipulations that were laws, as to what cutlery could be marked 'made in Solingen' based on the region where the item was manufactured, and I'm betting they were stringent in enforcing that.
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    Is there a difference in MADE or ASSEMBLED? Or even FINISHED?

    I have read many labels with something on the order of "Made in America with parts from Mexico, Sweden, and Japan."

    What is the country of origin?
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    Back to 'Blanks' . What is the definition of blanks? could be open to lots of interpretation. Could it be all but done and nothing stamped yet? COULD it be stamped if already hardened? Components are shipped elsewhere for final finishing and sale every day. Certainly this began as men started trading. Who knows? Certainly not everyone is still sworn to secrecy!
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    Quote Originally Posted by 32t View Post
    Is there a difference in MADE or ASSEMBLED? Or even FINISHED?

    I have read many labels with something on the order of "Made in America with parts from Mexico, Sweden, and Japan."

    What is the country of origin?
    China!!!!!
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    Someone with more knowledge on the subject than I can hopefully address this, but the only such law I'm aware of relates to Solingen. Basically, every step of the process from manufacture to packaging must be completed in Solingen to have the Solingen mark. So, if that's the case, blanks going out and not having that mark wouldn't help to determine anything. No idea what Spanish law on the matter would be

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    Quote Originally Posted by sharptonn View Post
    Back to 'Blanks' . What is the definition of blanks? could be open to lots of interpretation. Could it be all but done and nothing stamped yet? COULD it be stamped if already hardened? Components are shipped elsewhere for final finishing and sale every day. Certainly this began as men started trading. Who knows? Certainly not everyone is still sworn to secrecy!
    Right, that's kind of the point. A bunch of old men in Solingen *SAY* the blanks were made there. They're not keeping it a secret, but no one has been able to provide definitive proof of it. Because of that, we have all these threads trying to make heads or tails out of it
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    So if the blanks were not marked, finished and hardened, perhaps I might bring up a tale I heard of Filarmonica using molten lead in their process? No kidding! I read that somewhere.....HONEST!
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