Thread: Wade & Butcher Comeback

That's excellent Mike. I would love to see the down the road plans come to fruition - to see such a hallmark brand return with Sheffield steel and a Made in Sheffield mark would be quite an accomplishment. Best of luck!

Adam

Originally Posted by MichaelC

No no, I just noted Charles was Chair of that org out of interest to the community here. Very specifically our razors will not carry the 'Made in Sheffield' mark, as indeed they will be fully handcrafted in SA from Swedish Steels.

I would like to down the road, by adhering to the stipulations of the MIS certificate and with Charles' say-so, offer some blades that are perhaps made with Sheffield steel (cut, stamped in Sheffield) but then finished in SA, that then bear the MIS mark.. but that is down the road and only some inner plannings of mine for the time being.

- Mike

Gentlemen let us get back on the topic and if there are any further personal disagreements bring them to PM (personal message) This is a thread about W&B let's keep personalities our of it or the thread will be permanently closed. Thanks for your understanding and cooperation.

W&B was sold to Durham Duplex in 1922 and among other places, some of the manufacturing was done in Jersey City, NJ USA. The link below contains the full story with 10 (ten) pages to scroll through (arrow key at the bottom of the page)

William & Samuel Butcher - Sheffield, UK

Originally Posted by JimmyHAD

Gentlemen let us get back on the topic and if there are any further personal disagreements bring them to PM (personal message) This is a thread about W&B let's keep personalities our of it or the thread will be permanently closed. Thanks for your understanding and cooperation.

W&B was sold to Durham Duplex in 1922 and among other places, some of the manufacturing was done in Jersey City, NJ USA. The link below contains the full story with 10 (ten) pages to scroll through (arrow key at the bottom of the page)

William & Samuel Butcher - Sheffield, UK

Sorry, Jimmy! I was typing as you were. I shall now digress!

Oh! My post is GONE!
It happens!

Sharpton, i never meant to upset anyone, was just my opinion and was just replying with my opinion.
My work speaks for itself, i have had no complaints and I certainly dont need your or others blessings.
Black listing me & my business because i have an opinion and how i voice my opinion speaks volumes on how you take criticism.

Originally Posted by GabrielMartin

Sharpton, i never meant to upset anyone, was just my opinion and was just replying with my opinion.
My work speaks for itself, i have had no complaints and I certainly dont need your or others blessings.
Black listing me & my business because i have an opinion and how i voice my opinion speaks volumes on how you take criticism.

This thread is about the resurrection of W&B not about your business, take any further discussion not on topic to PM.
By the way familiarize yourself with the forum rules, you are breaking them by repeatedly plugging your restoration gig in multiple of your posts.

Originally Posted by GabrielMartin

Sharpton, i never meant to upset anyone, was just my opinion and was just replying with my opinion.
My work speaks for itself, i have had no complaints and I certainly dont need your or others blessings.
Black listing me & my business because i have an opinion and how i voice my opinion speaks volumes on how you take criticism.

I attempted to send this as a private message but I see you have chosen not to allow PMs in your user setting so ...........

I posted a public warning (#112) in this thread. One more off topic post in this thread and you are banned from this site for thirty days. Ball is in your court.

JimmyHAD SRP Moderator Team

Originally Posted by Utopian

OK, Glock, I'm not a mentor (or apparently even "mentor like") but you can use me as one anyway. Do you know how to send a PM? Actually, do you know that means private message? If so, start sending me questions. If not, then we will start with that after I get some sleep. Actually, if you look at the tabs at the top of the screen, the second tab from the left is "Library" and just below that is "Private Messages." Click that an it is like an email system that you hopefully can figure out. We'll start from there. I'll do what I can to help you get sorted out.

Many Thanks for helping Ron


I have sent Glock27 a pm and will try and help him get his questions sorted out

Glock 27 you have a PM (Private Message) look up and to the right see the word "Notifications" the message link is there

Hope full justice is done to the name and reputation of the originals.
Rooting for their success

Selfishly I would like to see some of the original "hollow" grinds reappear (8/8 FBU, 7/8 celebrated, etc.). There is indeed a uniqueness in feel and shave with W&B razors....as is evidenced by a lot of the passion displayed in this thread. While it may not be the "good 'ol days" and the steel may not be the same, I still think this would be a unique offering in the market. There are a lot of great custom makers out there, but very few have really gone after that specific look and feel (though it is obviously a styling point for many). Anyways, we will see and I remain optimistinc that this will be a great thing for the community at large.

As for some of the feelings about dilution/value propositions for the vintage W&B blades, I just can't see any tangible movement happening here due to this entry to the market. The vintage blades are just that...and their supply is finite. Even the lowly W&B Special has seen an uptick in value as of late (I only say lowly because it is so similar to other blades of its era...I have one and love it), but I think this is due to the renewed interest overall in this shaving methodology, and is not isolated to a custom, vintage, or restored offering from anyone at this point. Framed that way, the resurrection of this brand could be a good thing for all of us as there is more and more interest in this hobby! It may drive prices up a bit...but hey...if we want to be 100% historically accurate we should all have invested in one quality razor and shave it into the dirt....

My favorite straight is a 6/8" pre 1881 W&B hollow grind. It just feels good to use! I have other W&B blades that aren't even close to straight & the spine is not even close to being the same width the length of the razor. I have fixed a couple of them & they shave great now. I Love the steel in English razors but find the German ground razors have better QC in general.
Back on subject! "Sorry!" Anyone can buy a name & right's to what ever. If these new W&B razors meet the quality of the vintage razors why worry about it?? I am related to the Mappin family. I just might look into buying that name when I start making razors in the near future. I am related, why shouldn't I use the name to help my business if I want to? I agree a lot of names have been bought up & junk from China been sold under a good old brand. Think United Cutlery. A new Schrade knife is not one made in the US. Not even close. The thing about China is they can make a product with the quality you want to pay for. I prefer not to buy products made in China but you can't help it any more.Live & let live. we are just talking straight razors here, not war or atomic bombs. let's lighten up!

Slawman