Thread: Wade & Butcher Comeback

Originally Posted by Glock27

Utopian. Understanding all the little acronyms and how they are used. Even on this thread the reply with a quote, When I get there I don't see how to use it. Reply is about all I understand. Again the BB open/closed and other odd acronyms. At 71 and not a technical person it is just plane confusing. I have received e-mails like from Gabriel saying I was blackening his name and that was just not true. I not however above he has apologized, so hopefully that misunderstanding is over, but the message came through that bothered me.. I will get back with you on something more specific if I may. Thanks.

OK, Glock, I'm not a mentor (or apparently even "mentor like") but you can use me as one anyway. Do you know how to send a PM? Actually, do you know that means private message? If so, start sending me questions. If not, then we will start with that after I get some sleep. Actually, if you look at the tabs at the top of the screen, the second tab from the left is "Library" and just below that is "Private Messages." Click that an it is like an email system that you hopefully can figure out. We'll start from there. I'll do what I can to help you get sorted out.

How many apologies do you want from me. Where are you getting this stuff?

I have no clue as to what Glock is talking about, my posts have been directed at Utopian and he with me.
To my knowledge i have not sent Glock a private message & if i have it was accidentally and I apologise to him.
As for Utopian, your still at it even now by asking me to prove where you have made any reference to my grammar, making me out to be something i am not.
If you guys are looking for a reason to ban or block me then go ahead.

Glock, ignore the "on/off" stuff on the bottom--I do! We can sort out the other basic forum stuff over the next few days and maybe then move on to razors!

Hey Gabriel,

Again you make a fair point, and it's your right to have that stance for sure. I mean it makes sense..


But to answer your question directly: I just don't so strongly believe the brand needs to be abandoned in the past - as you believe it should be, and I respect that rationale as stated in my previous post.

The thing is, if the company/brand were properly defunct - not viable whatsoever (William Greaves & Sons for example), then I would be like you and say 'Hey, just let it be'.

But that the actual entity is still alive, and I'm up for the task of doing it complete justice and have secured the legitimate rights to do so, I feel it deserves to have an opportunity to continue on into the future, especially given that our current time is more respectful and appreciative of the straight razor than we were a good few decades ago.

I'm crossing the t's and dotting the i's to ensure this is done properly. I want it to be real, and so I'm making it happen. What else are great ideas built on? Passion and perseverance is what i'm bringing to this.

Should all really old companies stop and not continue forward? That's sort of ridiculous, I'm sure you can agree?.. companies change hands, materials change, designs evolve, production locations and methods change.. it's Business, but to me it's also Love for the tool and the industry.

Take Holland & Holland for example: are their guns less 'authentic' today because Harris Holland is long deceased? Or because in the 60's they amalgamated with Westley Richards and also moved premises? or that today they are incorporating new machinery and methods to produce their rifles? I'm sure we could all agree that that isn't the case. All that matters is that the Quality is still there, and the driving force that makes them great still permeates the workrooms..

Your logic would dictate that all old companies that 'change' should rather just cease, and start anew with different names and brand marks..

that fortunately is not the reality of heritage brands and long-existing companies.

Cheers,
- Mike

Originally Posted by GabrielMartin

Glock, as far as I'm concerned you have not offended me and i'm sorry to hear noone has helped you.
One thing i will say is this and i will stop.
Michael, if you are proud of your work, why use the Wade & Butcher name? Why not use your own name?
If it's different from the way the original Wades were made and location then it simply isn't Wade & Butcher.

I have razors to restore, goodbye

Good luck Mike, all the best. I look forward to maybe buying one of your razors.
Best regards
Gabe

Glock I believe your notifications is on and that is why it looks like everyone is emailing you.

I have changed my mind after Mike came onto the thread. It's just a name and that name will be on custom razors.

Originally Posted by GabrielMartin

Utopian, i am not insecure, i am passionate about straights & esp Wades.
You are deliberately picking out paragraphs of my posts and scrutinising me trying to trip me up & make me look like a fool with insults to my intelligence. So yes, you have something against me and your making yourself look daft & silly, not intelligent or mentor like.
Picking up on my grammer and other things I have said only says to me that your butt hurt at what i have said.
If you feel you have to put me in my place because of this, only makes you look like a bully, nothing more because deep down you know i am right

Please note what you wrote that I made bold.

Originally Posted by GabrielMartin

I have no clue as to what Glock is talking about, my posts have been directed at Utopian and he with me.
To my knowledge i have not sent Glock a private message & if i have it was accidentally and I apologise to him.
As for Utopian, your still at it even now by asking me to prove where you have made any reference to my grammar, making me out to be something i am not.
If you guys are looking for a reason to ban or block me then go ahead.

You accused me of picking on your grammar, and then when I asked you to give even a single instance when I did that, you said "your still at it even now by asking me to prove where you have made any reference to my grammar, making me out to be something i am not."

There is no sense in this at all.

Thanks. How do I shut it off?