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    Quote Originally Posted by Thug View Post
    Mine also does have "Made in Spain" stamped on the back of the tang.
    That's exactly the kind of info I'm looking for! Thank you, Tony!
    Mine has "made in spain" on the back of the tang and now I know of a B having the same thing.
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    Ok my turn to donate. My razor is near identical to the OP. Same box, same etch, same stamp, but my scales have the lyre and the written out filarmonica. And instead of the made in Spain stamp on the front, it's on the back.
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    Bad day for searching the registers, from USTPO (United States Patent and Trademark Office)....
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    I have found something new though...I've been thinking "why would someone put a postage stamp on
    an SR box?". You can't mail it like that. Not a good way to save a stamp if you're a philatelist. Then I
    saw this today. A past listing on the bay. A nice JMP etched blade in very good condition.
    What I noticed was the box. Exactly like the box I have...including the postage stamp on the back!
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    So my postage stamp is not a fluke.
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    Translate "timbre móvil" to English: documentary stamp....
    It's a tax stamp, I had mistranslated it previously to postage stamp or mobile ring. I've also
    found an example of the same stamp dated 1956. I need to find out what the timeline is for
    this stamp.


    http://www.todocoleccion.net/sellos-...1956~x58239082

    but this is a vendor's listing and cannot be considered stone cold fact.
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    One thing to think about your razor may be in the wrong box I've had many Filarmonica's even NOS 14s in the completely wrong boxes, I also don't think that Filarmonica as been rescaled I've seen many first generation JMP Doble Temple with plain white and black scales.
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    Quote Originally Posted by celticcrusader View Post
    One thing to think about your razor may be in the wrong box I've had many Filarmonica's even NOS 14s in the completely wrong boxes, I also don't think that Filarmonica as been rescaled I've seen many first generation JMP Doble Temple with plain white and black scales.
    Thank you, Jamie. I didn't know about the different scale colors. I'm still going to chase the stamp.
    I'll stop saying anything about the boxes.....for now.
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    In my hunt I'm finding a lot of examples, a few of which I will ask your thoughts on later.
    While reading/translating some spanish forums, I found this and am finding more examples
    like this in other languages as well. Somebody had a bad day at the factory? Maybe a new
    guy, maybe late on a Friday or maybe just a disgruntled worker, we'll never know. but what
    a pleasure it would be (to me) to own one of these errors.
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    I don't know if anyone has brought this to light, but I have found listed 12 patents of JMP.
    I find #12 the most interesting.

    MONSERRAT POU,JOSE. 12 patentes, modelos y/o diseños.
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    after all read, I'm still in doubt, 2 gen., so can you help me about dating this one and share your thought about it
    thanks
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