Thread: Newer dovo with significant hone wear

Originally Posted by northpaw

To be fair, that doesn't at all describe the warp honing thread the OP linked. The first six posts are exclusively Mentors and a Senior Moderator. Considering comments like Glen's first line in #6 of that thread, I tend to share Neil's views about this one.

First off guys you are taking that out of the context in which it was made...

Gary was talking about this Dovo in another thread which was why I knew what razor he was talking about...
I am good that way because I read so many of the threads....

There are problem razors out there, I don't really care what brand you mention, however most of those problems were caused by the first person that honed it...

Unfortunately no one every wants to admit that part of it, it is always the razor, it is never the loose nut behind the hone, or the strop, or even the shave...
But again without seeing this razor we are grinding axes over nothing...

Question:

If I were to say wonderful, warm, glowing things about DOVO, or Hart, or TI, would I be given glowing, near obsequious, approbation?

Some negatives get jumped on pretty hard; I'm just wondering if positives get the reverse.

Originally Posted by gssixgun

First off guys you are taking that out of the context in which it was made...

Didn't mean to take it in any context other than what a new guy might see. My point was that if I were a new member, without knowing all the backstory of Dovo's past and present consistency, how many razors Dovo makes, who was made a mentor here when, etc.

...if I didn't know any of that, but simply did a search for grind problems and Dovo, or uneven and Dovo, or somesuch, and then saw threads/posts like those, I might also ask the kinds of things the OP did (which upon reading his posts again, seem fairly polite and innocuous). Whether or not a new guy uses the right terminology, or somehow inadvertently steps on a popular manufacturer's toes, it would be nice if folks kept the responses friendly and helpful.

Again I am going to point out that you guys are lining up on sides of the field, and now I am actually begining to wonder why?????

I refuse to even acknowledge "hone wear" in general until I at least see a picture.. Second even with a picture it won't tell the whole story, third again, there are bad razors, I don't care the name of the brand...

Oh except Dubl Ducks there is no such thing as a bad one of those don't believe me just ask me....

PS; that was a joke don't take it out of context ok...

Only one way to find out.

Originally Posted by Bruce

Question:

If I were to say wonderful, warm, glowing things about DOVO, or Hart, or TI, would I be given glowing, near obsequious, approbation?

Some negatives get jumped on pretty hard; I'm just wondering if positives get the reverse.

Slarti...,

Stay tuned. I could have a lapse at any moment.

Originally Posted by northpaw

Didn't mean to take it in any context other than what a new guy might see. My point was that if I were a new member, without knowing all the backstory of Dovo's past and present consistency, how many razors Dovo makes, who was made a mentor here when, etc.

...if I didn't know any of that, but simply did a search for grind problems and Dovo, or uneven and Dovo, or somesuch, and then saw threads/posts like those, I might also ask the kinds of things the OP did (which upon reading his posts again, seem fairly polite and innocuous). Whether or not a new guy uses the right terminology, or somehow inadvertently steps on a popular manufacturer's toes, it would be nice if folks kept the responses friendly and helpful.

Hear, hear! As for context, I simply read the threads (I'm good at that too) and drew my own conclusions about their content without stating them, so I can't be mistaken for taking things out of context now, can I?

Originally Posted by gssixgun

Again I am going to point out that you guys are lining up on sides of the field, and now I am actually begining to wonder why?????

Who are "...you guys..."? - I'm not one of them, I hope. The only field I'm lining up on is not jumping on someone because he asked an innocent question - or is it unfashionable these days to make allowances for people?

Regards,
Neil

Originally Posted by Neil Miller

Who are "...you guys..."? - I'm not one of them, I hope. The only field I'm lining up on is not jumping on someone because he asked an innocent question - or is it unfashionable these days to make allowances for people?

Regards,
Neil

I guess I am going to have to point out the painfully obvious since you wanna jump on in here...

I HAVE NOT EVEN ADDRESSED the op not will I, until I see a pic..

I ADDRESSED somebody using my name and reputation to make a point that was not correct !!!!!

I CORRECTED it I see no more problem here, please leave me out of the rest of this disscusion as you guys are way off base here IMHO for not even seeing the razor yet... 30 plus posts and we have no freaking idea what anyone is talking about here... I AM OUT OF THIS ONE...

Originally Posted by Neil Miller

The only field I'm lining up on is not jumping on someone because he asked an innocent question

Would you care to elaborate what you mean by "jump on someone"?

Originally Posted by Neil Miller

or is it unfashionable these days to make allowances for people?

I presume this is a rhetorical question. If so, what would you think to be an appropriate answer in the light of your allegation above?

Regards,
Robin

I am going with Glen on this one. You have Lynn who hones more razors than God, Budha, Allah, Zeus or anyone else saying that Dovo's are not problematic as regarded to grind. I am not a huge fan of Dovo, or anything today being mass produced. I think their prices are much too high (regardless of the vendor) considering the wholesale value of the basic Dovo is $49 and it sells online from $65-$85, but other than some cheap scales maybe, I have yet to see anything they make (including brushes) that is not solid quality. I can say that I have honed a few TI's that did not lie flat on the hone and were in fact very slightly warped. However, that does not make me complain or condemn their product because in the end I think the steel they are using is nice and takes a very nice edge. I have honed roughly 120 Dovos (roughly 50) were new, and I can say that I have yet to have one that didn't hone very easily and take a very nice edge.
Again, You have the most experienced honer and foremost razor expert IN THE WORLD saying that grind is not the problem and one of the best restorers telling you that most likely its something else. Post up some pics, then everyone can judge and determine if the problem looks like something form the factory or after market handling.