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Benny,
You learned that in short order. Very prodigious.:)
M

jimmy, married 26 years to the same woman this week. I really no how to be wrong, in that field I am expert.
Mike

Benny,
Are you in this industry? If so I will say no more in hopes of rescue from technical minds in that industry. I know I should not hold my breath:rant:
M

benny,
You are well spoken and thank you for reminding me how Al2O3 is refined from principle ores. I am saying that Al2O3 is a starting point and these new stone have more to them. I could be...

Ok Benny,
We are living in an age where ceramics xtals are turning motion into electricity and vice versa and you are clearly saying that a binder seperates the new generation of water stones? And...

Benny
Are you so sure on this? I don't know and you could be totally right. If sorting and binders are the only differences it makes you wonder why companies like Norton have not expanded their line...

No offense taken. I don't hink people working in the Ceramic industries today would look at the simplistic notion that all Al2O3s are the same. I am not in that industry and don't claim to be an...

Old Dr Flanagan told us 1rst year Chem students 30+ years ago on day one "it is all about shape" then he started to teach and I fell in love with chemistry. He was into Nano before I knew what it...

I thought they were ceramic particles which have a wide variation in hardness. It might be a geometry thing either way. It would be interesting to get to the bottom of it. I think the problem Shapton...

Picture this Tom. The abrasive particles of the 16000 are harder and more blocky shaped. The 8000 Jp are more like soft pancakes. So on softer carbon steels the scratches are flatter even though...

Do you look at the beels under magnification? If you can look at the edge and bevel of the 8000Jp and then after the 16000 white and tell me what you see.The 16000 does not refine after the 8000jp....

Tom,
Have you noticed that the 8000 Jp is sooooo nice to the older sheffield blades in comparison with some of the harder steel razors? The bevels look more polished than scratched.
Mike

Anyway Jimmy,
This is where this post went wrong. Read my post. I was not talking about taking out ALL the scratches from previous grits. Totally talking about the 16k. I still love you man>

Not a chance, Maybe I'll get Tom Nielsen to make me a razor...
M

I could have saved 99.98 if I listened as much as I talk.
There is an even more important lesson in all of this than my original question. I forked out 100 bucks on a stone from the advice of a...

At this time, I would like to ask someone from Shapton who knows the materials to help clear up this mess. I know getting a scratch left out by 16000 has NOTHING to do with the great advice the...

That did it Lynn,
I am going to the vodka bottle. I think my head has too much swarf and the vodka might clear it:beer2:
M

Glen,
I don't get why you are "now" confused, this was the entire reason I wrote the post. My original post was not to alarm or bring forth any earth shattering (or 16000 glass stone shattering)...

Don't get me started:soapbox:. But someone has to ask the question, WILL IT PUT A BETTER EDGE ON MY RAZOR?

Lynn,
Are you talking about the Japanese version of the glass Stone? Harrelson said that the scratch depth of the of this Japanese 8000stone is wider on the surface but had less penetration than the...

Let me explain the point. I only have glass up to 16000 and at that level on razors I voiced a specific concern about stray scratches appearing in the bevel. I know they are acceptable to some...

I am with you 100% on why we are contributing, but don't goa knockin my nortons, I still have my 8000/4000 combo bisected longitudanaly(cut in half:)) And I still maintain, them Nortons are right up...

I am trying to find out if the glass stone Japanese version is the same as the pro series. Lynn, Harrelson old me the older pro series is "old technology" and the new glass japanese version for 8000...

Interesting to see how masters like Odate find ways to plug into western markets DMT poducts an such..

Not my field but they were very traditional about them for long time. No doubt advances in...

Don't get me wrong, there is nothing wrong with the 16000, but my point to him was what was the point of going that high and still having scratches left in the bevel. Jp still use some really cool...