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    Quote Originally Posted by outback View Post
    Awww shucks, its nothing I didn't learn from this forum and the other members here in the workshop. We learn and teach from each other, and improve from there.
    Hey Mike I have a question about those pesky cracks that are so common on ivory scales..
    I've got a few that have cracks. When looking at them I notice they have some grime inside crack, and "seem" to have space in that crack. Maybe this is just an illusion?
    If I clean out the dark crack, does this fix the problem visually, or do I need to fill the crack with CA? Or maybe epoxy with ivory dust?
    On horn cracks, which are usually gapped, I know the protocol with epoxy and bog dust.
    I just didn't want to assume it's the same with ivory.
    Thanks for your posts, much learned!
    Much appreciated!

    EDIT: How do you clean/doctor those cracks?
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    I clean um with a good degreaser, then soak um in peroxide for several days. Then a drop of thin AC, and squeeze together. I've repaired bone with CA and soda, but its supposed to work with ivory, too. Actually designed for fixing ivory, and extremely strong. I've never tried hiding a crack in ivory, but I guess I should sometime.

    I suppose I'd grind out the crack some, then fill it with soda, then a couple drops of CA.
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    Lotsa talk about the bone-scaled NOS Herders lately.

    Seems they are finally cutting them loose and are scaling them in bone.
    I have bought some blades with and without the scales, but the scales are not too bad.

    A bit bulky on the pivot-end. Depends on the blade. The black dye on the black ones and in the spade on the natural ones is deep. I dunno how they are made, but could use a bit of improvement. The wedge end is most guilty!

    The ones I have were shredding the tangs on the NOS blades.
    No taper to the wedge and no spacers at the pivot end.

    After a fairly decent investment into one of the 'display board' razors, I decided to try the scales which the seller graciously included.

    Firstly, here is a before and after...
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    Having the bulk of the tang open the scales on horn ones is desirable.
    On bone, it should be controlled by the spacers at the pivot and the bow of the scales from a tapered wedge so the bone stays off the tang. Bone will gnaw at the steel!
    These were all wrong there so I disassembled the scales and saw the wedge had been glued to one side. I did not want to break anything, so I devised a way to taper it. Made a tool.....

    Of a coat hanger, Sends sparks as you hit it!
    Put it to a spinning sanding disk.

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    Tapered it into the scale....That's OK! Same black bone!

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    Anyhoo, after all said and done it worked out good. Nice and tight, closes center.

    Nice bow to the scales and a tiny bit of daylight for the tang!

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    Nice fix Tom.
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    Thanks for the tool idea! I have a bunch of halfazz methods but yours will work better by far, and, save broken scales a bunch!. By the way, Nice fix for the scales!
    ~Richard
    PS. A good thing to use as a cam to split the scales apart.
    Both flats should be parallel..
    YMMV
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    Bravo Tom!
    Excellent tool and fix. I'm writing that one down for sure.
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    A few notes....The rubber hose is a must. If you hit the steel, it gets hot fast. Could melt scale if it gets too hot.
    I just tried to increase angle a bit as I saw sparks until it was flat.
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    Pretty clever that old Tom.
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    Fiberglassed up JP5's scales today. Being that I could only find 5 min. epoxy, I did them differently.

    I taped a piece of wax paper down to a flat piece of corian, then cut two pieces of glass for each scale, roughened the inside of the scales with 400 W/D paper and cleaned with denatured alcohol. Mixed up more than enough epoxy, applied a good coat to the inside of each scale, then place them on the fiberglass, arrange Popsicle stick to distribute the weight of my RR track anvil ( Est. 9Lbs. ).

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    Had to hold the anvil in place while the excess epoxy oozed out from under, removing all air as well. After about 15 minutes, I removed the anviland Popsicle sticks ( in case any epoxy got on the Popsicle sticks ) and trimmed off some of the excess material . once cured over night, I can clean up the rest.


    My thought was, that by doing it this way, instead of using a squeegy, that once cured all would be flat, and no sanding would be necessary. BINGO.!!
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    BTW the wax paper peels off, like the paper on a stick of butter

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    Last edited by outback; 09-24-2018 at 02:11 AM.
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    Why didn't I think of that! Excellent idea Mike.
    Yesterday I had to dig out rotten coring, replace and glass over. Even though I had a full suit on from head to toe, I'm still itching. I hate grinding fiberglass.
    Anyway, to prep my surface before the fiberglass is hardened I stretch cloth over it and pull that top layer off after hardened. This creates a perfect rough surface to paint on or lay more fiberglass without sanding.

    If it is was wax paper... Then it would be a perfect smooth surface, no need to sand.. That's really cool, a definite must on the process you've outlined!
    Sanding fiberglass sucks, so for anyone who has had to do it this is a great one Mike.
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