Thread: Paper testing razors

Take my advice,,, never be fooled by an avatar,,,,,,,,,

Originally Posted by Hirlau

Take my advice,,, never be fooled by an avatar,,,,,,,,,

That's right i know your avatar is a double bluff and you really are a 12 year old

So? Do I get a pass now? Free to discus how cutting paper will instantly notify one of a wire edge, or help to identify a razor with a geometry that produces an edge which is too narrow, or find newly developed chips before getting to the test shave? I know there were detractors that have not posted since the picture progression I posted. Doesn't mean they haven't been here. I know there could be others that would instantly get ruffled if I say 'cut paper'.

Originally Posted by bigeasy1

So? Do I get a pass now? Free to discus how cutting paper will instantly notify one of a wire edge, or help to identify a razor with a geometry that produces an edge which is too narrow, or find newly developed chips before getting to the test shave? I know there were detractors that have not posted since the picture progression I posted. Doesn't mean they haven't been here. I know there could be others that would instantly get ruffled if I say 'cut paper'.

I personally use the thumb nail test during bevel set so you'll hear nothing off putting from me.cheers bigeasy1 and happy shaving friend .

No pass required. Unlike the accusations of some, this place is not a union of yes-men. Civil disagreement makes for more more informative discussions in my opinion.

Thanks Gents

I know there is a possibility of newbies grabbing some of my comments, and damaging a few razors, and possibly even writing elsewhere "Well I read it on SRP".

Maybe it would help if I added "Caution! Paper cutter! Methods could be dangerous and destructive to your razor" at the lead of my signature line.

Any thoughts?
Cheers

Originally Posted by bigeasy1

Maybe it would help if I added "Caution! Paper cutter! Methods could be dangerous and destructive to your razor" at the lead of my signature line.

Any thoughts?

Ummm. I have mixed thoughts about it. On one hand it might be good to have that warning to the unenlightened. On the other hand that seems like an unreasonable label to have attached to you, as I assume you have greater depth of knowledge beyond paper cutting.

I'm torn. Not cut, torn.

It might be easier to ban you.

Originally Posted by Utopian

Ummm. I have mixed thoughts about it. On one hand it might be good to have that warning to the unenlightened. On the other hand that seems like an unreasonable label to have attached to you, as I assume you have greater depth of knowledge beyond paper cutting.

I'm torn. Not cut, torn.

It might be easier to ban you.

No, I'm not looking for that

Thanks.
I did look at my signature line and decide it may be taken as too presumptuous, and added a little.
I hope your comment of "greater depth' is true. But, I do have a tendency to mention paper cutting when presented with a problem that paper cutting may assist with. As it is what got me into this ruckus. Similar disturbances would only serve to detract from other useful and informative conversations. Holding back information I have that may assist, is not easy.
Cheers

Originally Posted by Slurryer

Here's my thing everyone. We're here to share information. A hundred smilliar opinions is not very informative. There's just as much value in a technique that has negative results as a technique that has positive results. You learn something from both. I'm just as interested in learning what doesn't work as what does, and the reasons why. bigeasy1 has a technique that works for him. I want to understand why it works for him. Then I want to learn why it does or does not work for me. What are the things I should consider doing it this way, or do the con's out way the pro's. Or is there any benefit at all to this technique? Learning the pro's and con's is part of the process. I'm not looking for the holy grail of honing. Just some info on one man's technique, and how it's working for him. I'm a fairly smart guy. I'll figure out where this fits in the scheme of things through the opinions here, and my own personal experience.

I did not get to properly address this at the time. If you will go back a couple of pages from here, to the pics, I hope I have given enough information to decide whether you would like to continue to investigate paper cutting or not. If you decide to continue, please post some comments along the way, positive or negative. Negative will help me to remember more of the potholes that are to faced along the way, and tell others as well. Will also give me an opportunity to explain how to avoid a problem, if I know.

This past week is probably the most time and effort I have put into the forum in the four years I have been a member. I stay very busy. But, I will try to make the time to answer questions. May just take me a day or so.
Cheers

Originally Posted by bluesman7

I was treating the paper cutting as a bevel set test and like another bevel set test that I do, the TNT, I assumed that it was a slightly destructive test. As such I did not use it above the 1k level.

Before dulling the razor for re honing I did slice a little paper with the razor in just off of shave ready condition.
That was pretty impressive.

This actually may be a good starting point for most. A sharp edge you are going to reset the bevel on anyway. If you had continued the cutting, you may very well have created the bur so dreaded here, or may have gotten far enough to realize after 10-12 cuts, the blade did not cut as slickly, with a little more drag, and possibly a little more noise, as the paper tore more and cut less. Continued cutting from that point would have eventually created a few chips, and it may have become more difficult to drag the razor through the paper. Not exactly the reverse of the normal progression of bevel set to fine edge, as there are no striations from the progression of stones, but enough to give you some feel, and realize the difference. Assuming your bevel set got rid of all other imperfections, cuts will start without the chips that were so obvious coming from the other direction, and the cuts will b a little smoother, but noisy. They will approach the first cuts you did with a good edge, as the progression moves along. If you suddenly get a very rough and noisy cut, you have a wire edge, or bur, possibly caused by getting side pressure from the paper while making your last cut. A pothole.
Cheers,