Thread: Experimenting with some jointing techniques

Originally Posted by onimaru55

I think it may be the Dovo video , shows them using some leather or horn maybe ?

I think I remember a Dove video in which a worker is wearing a ring of some soft metal (maybe lead?) on their thumb and they dragged the edge along that ring.

Originally Posted by Utopian

I think I remember a Dove video in which a worker is wearing a ring of some soft metal (maybe lead?) on their thumb and they dragged the edge along that ring.

It was lead, he died a slow and agonizing death from the gradual effects of lead poisoning .......... so they hired another guy ......

Sorry .......... feeble attempt at humor .........

That sounds like it. RIP

Originally Posted by JimmyHAD

It was lead, he died a slow and agonizing death from the gradual effects of lead poisoning .......... so they hired another guy ......

Sorry .......... feeble attempt at humor .........

Yup. Feeble!

This is my first post in this thread, but I have read all the posts here. I know nothing about "jointing" , interesting as the discussion has been.

But,,,,

Here is what I do know; we all spend our free time here, we all share a common interest and we all have different levels of experience. When you take a look at the participation in day to day topics, the number of us that engage each other in discussion is fewer than you might think.

Meaning,, we must keep the peace among us. Senior members are the core of this site. When tension gets to the point that senior members cannot communicate with each other, it effects us all.

Please keep the peace here Gentlemen,

Originally Posted by Utopian

My objection earlier in this thread was to the continued attempt to justify joining/jointing by connecting it with the Iwasaki treatise.

I have said it before it is guideline not a honing bible.
The one thing I took word for word from that book was how to condition and refine leather for a strop. Made some nice paddle strops following the prescription.

I did see the Dovo video with the horn. It was my impression that they were using it to test for bevel set like a TNT. I think the announcer said something to that effect. I also saw another video with a grinder using a ring. As I understood it, he was using the ring to test the blade for flex.

Originally Posted by BeJay

I did see the Dovo video with the horn. It was my impression that they were using it to test for bevel set like a TNT. I think the announcer said something to that effect. I also saw another video with a grinder using a ring. As I understood it, he was using the ring to test the blade for flex.

You are right! I can picture that scene now and he WAS testing for flex with the thumb ring. It had nothing to do with honing. I was wrong.

Been playing with jointing the edge for a while, depending on condition of razor. Found the corner of the hone a bit harsh, the TNT works better for me, does the same thing. Basically you are bending the fin over and knocking off the high points at a molecular level.

Seems this is one of those "whatever works" threads.
One thing is for sure, once you get that edge right all you need to maintain that edge is a lead dressed strop ...

Originally Posted by Euclid440

“I do not see anything in the geometry involved in honing to merit joining or jointing ever.”

“I never have told anyone not to do it”

“If you like your Doctor, you can…”

Originally Posted by Utopian

That was my attempt at diplomacy, nothing more. I do not see anything in the geometry involved in honing to merit joining or jointing ever. I don't do a lot of back-honing , so I don't tend to create foil edges. I look at every edge I hone and and I just don't see foil edges except very small fins on crappy steel. Even then, such fins are removed with honing.

Because it has been pushed here so frequently, I have experimented with it many times. I have tried it more often when honing chippy edges, like gold dollars, and I do not find any improvement over normal proper honing.

The straightening of an edge occurs during the normal honing process, so I see no need to attempt to preemptively straighten the edge. That is my opinion, nothing more.

Context matters.