Thread: I Don't Get It Apparently, +$1K for a Double Duck?

Originally Posted by ChrisL

Can anyone give their educated opinion on whether or not that razor was re-pinned?

Chris L

I don't know about that one in particular, but I remember reading something on here somewhere about Altima de and repinning blades (to clean them, I think).

Originally Posted by ChrisL

Nice looking razor. It's nice to see where the gold wash dividing line ends then on an original factory wash.

I don't own a Goldedge. For those who do...........is that an original factory pin job on the pivot pin? I know Altima55 has said that he frequently repins razors during restoration.

IF I was going to spend $1k on a razor (I never would) thinking it was literally 100% unaltered, unrestored original condition (I'm not implying this one for auction isn't) and I found out it was re-pinned, I think I'd get sick in my lap then RAPIDLY ask for a full refund.

Can anyone give their educated opinion on whether or not that razor was re-pinned?

Chris L

i didn't know that Altima restores them .. i thought that he wrote"It shows no prior usage whatsoever" maybe i read it wrong.
if he did restore them then i'm pretty sure that the gold and blue would have been retouched.

Originally Posted by vespar72

i didn't know that Altima restores them ..

Only he would know whether he restores (including de-pin and re-pin) ALL of his razors, most or some, but......yep, it's my understanding, unless I'm wrong, that most of his razors are de-pinned and re-pinned in addition to being restored to some degree.

I've shared my opinion on this before in other posts over time, but I have no problem whatsoever with even complete overhaul, regrind, re-pin, heck, even re-gold wash or re-etching if it were done to a razor. Clearly many of our valued members here do jaw dropping work that I enjoy looking at more than I'd care to say..

However, assumptions about someone or their work can turn into widely held beliefs when that person may not disclose (even if completely unintentionally) all info related to an item's condition. I believe in an Ebay auction or classified, that any razor that's been restored, reground, re-pinned, etc should be indicated as such and specifically in regard to what types of alterations were performed. Personally I would take that into account in regard to the value I would place on such a razor.

Analogy:

A vintage but fully restored (fabricated parts, matched paint, overhauled engine, etc) high value collector car might bring a very large sum at an auction.

A vintage mint original condition vehicle of the same type with no alteration of any kind is in a different class entirely.

Super-rich car nuts want to know what they're paying hundreds or thousands or even millions of dollars for in the vehicles they collect (those types of car auctions are interesting to watch). If it was assumed based on description that a vehicle was mint and 100% original and such a buyer found out it was restored, I don't think the rep of that seller would last in those car circles or at least that seller would have to adopt full disclosure in future sales.

Yeah yeah, I'm talking about apples and oranges in values with my analogy. The value of the million dollar cars warrant full disclosure while lowly straight razors, who cares?; Oh, rather than lowly, I mean up to $1,000 straight razors.

Chris L

Before all you guys go nuts over the 1k DD, It was a mistake, I know and talk to the seller all the time. He's a good friend. The razor sold for 350, I think, not entirely sure...But not 1000.00, so everyone relax, and take a deep breath. I think someone put a Thousand dollar retainer bid in hopes of not getting sniped. Someone bid 4000.00 in lieu of 400. end of story...I just got off the phone with the seller, What really blows my mind is all the intelligent people on this fourm didn't even think for a minute, that it could have been a mistake?

Here's where it gets better, Now, go back to May 20th. A DD Goldedge, 6/8 restored by Lynn went for 212.00, The same guy who lost that one, is D..H, He lost to tonight's winner again....I'd bet any thing, he set his snip to 1025 thinking, There's no way anyone will bid more that, what 400 bucks...
Well, one messed up key stroke and someone did, When I find out how it ends, you'll all know....

Originally Posted by zib

What really blows my mind is all the intelligent people on this fourm didn't even think for a minute, that it could have been a mistake?

I don't mean this to be rude or offensive, but when it comes to people on ebay, I usually assume they are idiots (unless I have reason to assume otherwise).

There's money to made Gentleman....

Originally Posted by holli4pirating

...when it comes to people on ebay, I usually assume they are idiots (unless I have reason to assume otherwise).

I couldn't agree more.

Originally Posted by ChrisL

I don't own a Goldedge. For those who do...........is that an original factory pin job on the pivot pin?

the pivot pin looks slightly different from my goldedges and the other two pins, but the pictures are not very good. i think if the buyer is concerned with that they can find out from bob. i'd assume he hasn't depinned it.

Originally Posted by zib

Before all you guys go nuts over the 1k DD, It was a mistake, I know and talk to the seller all the time. He's a good friend. The razor sold for 350, I think, not entirely sure...
....
When I find out how it ends, you'll all know....

It'll be interesting to know, not that it really matters. It's between the buyer, the seller and ebay. I know if I were the high bidder I would be rather suspicious about the whole process, but I doubt I'll ever get any evidence for faul play even if there were one, so I'd have to pay the 1k, which is the number I agreed to pay when submitting my bid.

Originally Posted by zib

Before all you guys go nuts over the 1k DD, It was a mistake, I know and talk to the seller all the time. He's a good friend. The razor sold for 350, I think, not entirely sure...But not 1000.00, so everyone relax, and take a deep breath. I think someone put a Thousand dollar retainer bid in hopes of not getting sniped. Someone bid 4000.00 in lieu of 400. end of story...I just got off the phone with the seller, What really blows my mind is all the intelligent people on this fourm didn't even think for a minute, that it could have been a mistake?

One mistake wouldn't be enough to make that happen.
There were two snipe bids of $1000+.
Some lessons to be learned here. Maybe don't snipe drunk?

Originally Posted by Rajagra

One mistake wouldn't be enough to make that happen.
There were two snipe bids of $1000+.
Some lessons to be learned here. Maybe don't snipe drunk?

Zib was saying one guy left a proxy bid of $1000, a second fellow meant to bid $400 but instead typed $4000, pushing the total winning bid to one increment over the earlier $1000 bid. One intentional bid and one mistake.

Now Zib, don't scold us for thinking it sold for $1000. According to what you posted at least one bidder WAS willing to pay $1000, the first fellow who left the proxy bid. So it very well could have realized $1000 if a second bidder also willing to pay what bidder #1 was.

Tony