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Thread: Strike against Syria
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08-29-2013, 04:56 PM #71
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08-29-2013, 05:31 PM #72
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Thanked: 599Actually, gas masks have been part of an Israeli citizen's "wardrobe" since shortly before Gulf War I -- I was there, living in Tel-Aviv with my (then) wife and two young daughters (8 and 6). Since then, gas mask filters have been replaced (we did use 'em during the SCUD attacks), and later on, they were upgraded to newer models. It can, though, be dicey for tourists... and for Israeli males who sport beards (can't get a positive seal without being clean-shaven).
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08-29-2013, 06:15 PM #73
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Thanked: 3222IIRC I just read that the Israeli postal system hands out the masks and that there were line ups for them. There are enough for the entire population apparently. Israeli reservists have also been called up. More Patriot missile systems and Iron Dome system have been moved to the border area with Syria. Sounds like a pretty tense time in Israel.
BobLife is a terminal illness in the end
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08-29-2013, 06:22 PM #74
There is story of an event that "allegedly" took place during the Vietnam war. In 1968 the U.S. aerially dropped a couple of canisters of VX nerve gas about 10 miles into northeast Cambodia where the 94th North Vietnamese Army ran an isolated recovery group. The research project done in the U.S. on VX turned into a military op named "Red Cap". The target selection was made by our SF unit B57. No specific results have ever been made public but within about 15 minutes VX would kill anything living in the target area. Everything from the most simple insect on through to humans.
I had heard this discussed by some old SOG operators at a couple of Airborne unit reunions along with a couple of pilots. i have no idea if this event took place.Bob
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08-29-2013, 06:45 PM #75
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Thanked: 3222Op Red Cap Nerve Gassing the North Vietnamese . Interesting read for sure.
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08-29-2013, 06:46 PM #76
Gentlemen (and ladies),I have just read all current eight pages of opinions, facts, non-facts and an immense amount of hyperbole. I feel what is needed right now is for all of us that have an opinion, one way or another, should, need, must take a minute, sit in a quiet place and pray. Yes, PRAY! I don't give a rats you know what, I am far from religious, other than a belief in the Universe, and I don't believe in a hot minute that even the truly agnostic among us don't secretly cast words to the sky. And by pray I mean to send out thoughts to the innocent in those areas that are in contest over "I'm Right, You Are Not", especially if you have relatives and/or friends living in and near those places of dispute. Enough said.
I should add that in addition to the above I can be a bit of a hypocrite. I have told my older grandkids that if anyone hurts them beyond the usual things of everyday life that I will seek them out and make them wish that their grandparents had never been born. I guess we are still not far from the animal.Last edited by Razorfeld; 08-29-2013 at 08:34 PM. Reason: additonal comment
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08-29-2013, 06:53 PM #77
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Thanked: 2027If Russia is going to defend syria,we should start prying for the entire planet.
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08-29-2013, 07:03 PM #78
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Thanked: 1184Razorfled ,,, pray for us all. For those who let this happen are just as guilty as those who push the buttons and the leaders that order it. The US is so far from what it was intended to be that I think it is about time to...........holding my tongue for obvious reasons. Government my buttox, it's a hybrid corporation.
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08-30-2013, 05:32 PM #79
Personally i think that all this showing of muscles a bad mouthing between great powers (or those who like to be called like that) is just a great theatre for masses. USA/EU/Russia and China have way too much to lose to even think about risking their mutual agreements seriously.
While big leaders keep saying this and that big words there's armies of diplomats and official/unofficial advocates negotiating behind the curtains, keeping each others masters aware of what's gonna happen next and what comes after that.
It's like a secret protocol of Molotov-Ribbentrop pact between Soviet and Germany 1939.
This time they have decided what will happen to Syria and how to share profits.
Surely there will be war of some kind but it will end in time. As the rebuilding and restoring infrastructures begins, there's western/Soviet/Chinese consult agencies and companies already waiting and ready to give their helping hand. For big $$$ of course. Salesmen of the arms industries will be there too. Just like it happened in Iraq and several other places. Money to be made for some. Life to lose for some others. More foreing troops risking their life and all in the other side of the globe.
War is good business for some. Nowadays maybe more than ever before. Whatever the result will be, it's the people of Syria who will pay the hardest price.
If the great powers ever had any will to stop humanitarian crisis, they would have done so long time ago. With lesser risk and lesser dead people. Now there's millions of refugees, of more than 1 million being less than 18 years old. Generations lost forever. What a wonderful world.
Just my sunshiney opinion.Last edited by Sailor; 08-30-2013 at 05:55 PM.
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08-30-2013, 07:15 PM #80
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Thanked: 2027War is great buis for the U.S. also (somebody has to make those tommyhawks)
WW2 pulled this country out of the great depression.
We have 10s of thousands of military out of work,gotta get them back on the job,hell ya,is a wonderfull world