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BobH Measles 12-05-2019, 03:52 PM
joelkerr As someone with small... 12-05-2019, 03:53 PM
RezDog Well two things that never... 12-05-2019, 04:12 PM
gssixgun I just saw the report about... 12-05-2019, 04:25 PM
Geezer I am one of those who... 12-05-2019, 04:57 PM
PaulKidd Here in California, there's a... 12-05-2019, 05:56 PM
RobinK Crazy stuff, isn't it?... 12-08-2019, 08:32 PM
BobH Not having witnessed first... 12-05-2019, 07:30 PM
tintin Well i can see that my view... 12-05-2019, 10:01 PM
alex1921 Vaccines do not cause autism.... 12-05-2019, 10:15 PM
tcrideshd True my stepson contracted... 12-05-2019, 11:30 PM
32t Just thinking out loud again.... 12-05-2019, 11:31 PM
onimaru55 Indeed it is & it's totally... 12-06-2019, 12:05 AM
BobH No matter how you cut it more... 12-06-2019, 12:26 AM
32t It depends on the disease and... 12-06-2019, 12:44 AM
tintin there are ways to boost the... 12-06-2019, 12:36 AM
BobH With the flu you risk death... 12-06-2019, 01:17 AM
thebigspendur You want a reality check? Go... 12-06-2019, 02:04 AM
PaulFLUS I absolutely cannot believe... 12-06-2019, 02:13 AM
Kees When I was young measles were... 12-13-2019, 07:36 PM
BobH Yes, and I bet nobody told... 12-13-2019, 08:27 PM
rolodave When I had the measles I... 12-13-2019, 08:37 PM
cudarunner When I got the measles my... 12-13-2019, 08:50 PM
DZEC As a child I got the measles... 12-13-2019, 09:22 PM
32t A coworker returned to work... 12-13-2019, 11:13 PM
cudarunner Side Effects 12-14-2019, 12:05 AM
rolodave That was and is so true. ... 12-14-2019, 12:24 PM
Orville I feel much the same about... 12-17-2019, 02:08 AM
thebigspendur I caught Measles when I was... 12-17-2019, 03:29 AM
Johntoad57 I would like to think that we... 12-13-2019, 08:45 PM
onimaru55 For another chuckle google... 12-06-2019, 10:19 AM
BobH During the 1918 Spanish Flu... 12-06-2019, 12:37 PM
PaulFLUS Stuff I found in 5 minutes. ... 12-06-2019, 01:49 PM
Geezer Just as a filler: :argue: I... 12-06-2019, 03:13 PM
DZEC As far as getting a mild form... 12-06-2019, 04:02 PM
PaulFLUS Amen to that my friend. Very... 12-06-2019, 05:56 PM
32t The one that I have been... 12-06-2019, 10:18 PM
BobH Yup, there is not a vaccine... 12-06-2019, 11:19 PM
tintin don't worry, they are working... 12-06-2019, 11:21 PM
thebigspendur That's because there are a ... 12-06-2019, 11:22 PM
rolodave A school here shut down today... 12-06-2019, 11:23 PM
thebigspendur There is an old saying about... 12-06-2019, 11:31 PM
onimaru55 ************* 12-07-2019, 12:35 AM
PaulFLUS Well, I will say one last bit... 12-07-2019, 01:49 AM
onimaru55 Well as I have decades... 12-07-2019, 04:09 AM
thebigspendur In the public health game... 12-07-2019, 04:22 AM
BobH That is exactly it. It is... 12-07-2019, 09:21 AM
RayClem I grew up during the 50s and... 12-07-2019, 01:09 PM
PaulFLUS Fact, NOT "opinion": My son... 12-07-2019, 03:07 PM
RezDog Update on Somoa. Population... 12-07-2019, 05:00 PM
BobH To put that into perspective,... 12-07-2019, 05:41 PM
Phrank Very interesting discussion.... 12-07-2019, 06:37 PM
JBHoren FFS, Phrank -- move to... 12-07-2019, 08:43 PM
BobH That is exactly why the... 12-07-2019, 09:02 PM
thebigspendur At one time they used to... 12-07-2019, 09:19 PM
Phrank LOL - I'm all for... 12-07-2019, 10:00 PM
STF I know a of a President that... 12-08-2019, 03:57 PM
ScoutHikerDad Since Phrank brought up the... 12-08-2019, 08:30 PM
tintin from what i understand that... 12-08-2019, 08:38 PM
thebigspendur Once you get chickenpox the... 12-08-2019, 08:47 PM
STF As I said in an earlier post,... 12-08-2019, 09:27 PM
RobinK To quote... 12-08-2019, 09:44 PM
thebigspendur There are a variety of... 12-08-2019, 11:13 PM
tintin As long as people (and health... 12-09-2019, 11:23 AM
Aggelos I for one don't care what... 12-09-2019, 11:59 AM
Tjh AHA, I KNEW IT! This is very... 12-09-2019, 02:04 PM
alex1921 Well in the era of internet... 12-09-2019, 04:07 PM
tintin would you happen to have... 12-09-2019, 09:29 PM
32t Medicine has made some great... 12-09-2019, 11:04 PM
alex1921 https://www.cdc.gov/vaccinesaf... 12-10-2019, 03:28 AM
alex1921 Agree that it is a trade. A... 12-10-2019, 03:54 AM
tintin Thanks for the link. However... 12-10-2019, 11:17 AM
alex1921 https://www.skepticalraptor.co... 12-10-2019, 03:55 PM
thebigspendur The only reason this is... 12-08-2019, 08:43 PM
BobH They used to quarantine you... 12-07-2019, 08:51 PM
32t You might hurt someones... 12-07-2019, 11:20 PM
BobH Well, if it was effective... 12-08-2019, 12:01 AM
onimaru55 Sorry to hear that about your... 12-08-2019, 12:40 AM
Grazor My grandson, who is also my... 12-08-2019, 04:42 AM
BobH Very sorry to hear what has... 12-08-2019, 08:30 AM
Geezer Perhaps, it was not the fault... 12-08-2019, 02:44 PM
tintin The vaccine schedule calls... 12-08-2019, 08:32 PM
Orville The problem is, when you... 12-17-2019, 02:05 AM
onimaru55 You make an incorrect... 12-17-2019, 10:33 PM
32t As a doctor was talking to a... 12-17-2019, 11:08 PM
thebigspendur We shouldn't lose sight of... 12-17-2019, 11:21 PM
cudarunner My grandfather had Scarlet... 12-17-2019, 11:36 PM
bluesman7 Just dropped my wife off at... 12-17-2019, 11:47 PM
tintin I was going to refrain from... 12-18-2019, 12:09 AM
BobH https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/... 12-18-2019, 12:48 AM
Gasman I've been reading this and... 12-18-2019, 04:07 AM
tintin I don't know anything about... 12-18-2019, 11:25 AM
thebigspendur I agree about big pharma but... 12-18-2019, 10:41 PM
rolodave Floride 12-18-2019, 11:07 PM
cudarunner My city of Walla Walla... 12-18-2019, 11:12 PM
onimaru55 Everything is poisonous in... 12-18-2019, 11:51 PM
JBHoren I'm taking no chances. I just... 12-24-2019, 08:20 PM
onimaru55 No point in diluting good... 12-24-2019, 11:31 PM
STF In beer there is freedom, in... 12-26-2019, 10:03 PM
Geezer Waste of good aftershave! ... 12-26-2019, 10:40 PM
JBHoren You do realize that I was... 12-27-2019, 02:40 AM
Geezer I use it seldom but it is one... 12-27-2019, 02:56 AM
BobH Anyone need more proof that a... 01-08-2020, 04:41 AM
Bruno I work in big pharma. There... 12-19-2019, 12:56 PM
Bruno I should add: we are also... 12-19-2019, 03:04 PM
alex1921 Just few observations.... 12-19-2019, 03:18 PM
STF Recently I was in a car... 12-19-2019, 03:44 PM
thebigspendur Pain meds are necessary for... 12-19-2019, 06:20 PM
32t I can't "Like" that but... 12-19-2019, 10:19 PM
thebigspendur Much of the opioid problem... 12-20-2019, 01:48 AM
bluesman7 I saw something that said... 12-20-2019, 05:07 AM
Bruno Additionally, when it comes... 12-19-2019, 03:18 PM
Orville Did not mean to give the... 12-20-2019, 02:27 AM
onimaru55 My father is 91 & has never... 12-20-2019, 03:20 AM
thebigspendur As I like to say, everyone... 12-20-2019, 03:58 AM
onimaru55 Ha ! So true! I had an... 12-20-2019, 04:44 AM
kelbro Exactly! I was only... 12-21-2019, 01:49 AM
thebigspendur As you age your immunity... 12-21-2019, 02:04 AM
32t I have a hard time seeing... 12-21-2019, 02:44 AM
kelbro I did some work with a lead... 12-21-2019, 11:50 AM
Geezer When I was in high-school,... 12-21-2019, 04:09 PM
thebigspendur Back in "The good old days"... 12-21-2019, 05:57 PM
STF The girls that painted the... 12-21-2019, 06:37 PM
rolodave Bon and I are definitely... 12-21-2019, 02:53 AM
Orville Well, that's the beauty of... 12-25-2019, 03:28 PM
DZEC And then there is this ... ... 12-25-2019, 07:26 PM
onimaru55 Ah yes , the absoluteness of... 12-26-2019, 12:37 AM
thebigspendur Well those are the tactics... 12-26-2019, 01:43 AM
onimaru55 All I'm saying is that not... 12-26-2019, 09:20 AM
thebigspendur The only absolutes in this... 12-26-2019, 06:00 PM
AlanQ And the first wont spare you... 12-26-2019, 09:27 PM
outback Sorry to say, but I'm in that... 12-06-2019, 02:27 AM
thebigspendur I guess most folks born in... 12-06-2019, 04:35 AM
alex1921 People take the advances of... 12-05-2019, 10:06 PM
evnpar Many people today don't have... 12-05-2019, 04:12 PM
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    Quote Originally Posted by tintin View Post
    I don't know anything about the doctor or the claims against him(i have to admit that they make him sound like a crook). I have heard several testimonies from scientists/whistleblowers who's careers were ruined and work discredited by the big Pharma because there research would destroy them. I am a firm believer in the potential evil of people especially when big money is involved. Big pharma doesn't have a perfect track record either (think the opioid crisis).
    I work in big pharma. There is a lot of BS always going round about us burying miraculuous cures, suppressing research etc.
    It is true that we are in it for the money. And that is exactly why you can know those claims to be silly.
    If ANY company would find a cure for cancer, or aids, or something else, they would fight each other to get to the patent office first, and rake in trillions.

    The idea that some person's research would destroy a pharma company is a fairy tale.
    The biggest thing wrong with pharma is that assholes like Skrelli can buy single providers and jack up the price by 600%

    The 'cheap' stuff is where the abuse is. Not the expensive stuff. One of the products we make is a very complex thing to make. It needs to be babysat through up to 2 months in bioreactors needing constant attention. It requires a half billion dollar plant, several hundred employees, tens of millions of $ in upkeep, ... for not even 2500 patients worldwide. It took also close to a decade from breaking ground to regulatory approval. It should be obvious why a treatment is around 100K per person per year.

    Companies like where I work for make a sport out of buying promising startups and getting their product to market. They LOVE small startups who make promising new products. Rather than stomping them out, they rush to be first to buy them out.
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