Thread: Supreme Court finds individual right to own guns

The gist of the article, for those who did not read it...ahem, is that the relationship between gun laws and gun crimes is very complex, and that many studies can be interpreted to support both sides, as Justice Breyer found out when researching the case. Not sure if it needs rebutting.


Happy to see you working to improve your game on my account though.

I am all for having the right / privilege (privileged right ) to own firearms and fire crackers as we get closer to July 4th , but

I would have trouble believing anything said by

NCPA - Policy Report 176 - Myths About Gun Control

as their opinions are mostly right wing rhetoric.

Originally Posted by Photoguy67

I have trouble beliveing ANYTHING printed by the New York times as they are (personal opinion) the most liberal anti gun news paper in existence and only print things that support their views no matter how wrong they are.
Photoguy67

Originally Posted by Mike_ratliff

In essence The police keep honest people from turning to crime out of fear of the consequences. Arrest humiliation, jail, or prison...

Been enjoying reading this thread without joining in, but had to jump in to disagree with this statement. I don't believe honest people are honest due to the fear of consequenses from the police. More so the consequenses of self image/ confidence, Karma or spiritual accountability. I believe that for honest people the police are the least concern.


Scott

Originally Posted by honedright

Been enjoying reading this thread without joining in, but had to jump in to disagree with this statement. I don't believe honest people are honest due to the fear of consequenses from the police. More so the consequenses of self image/ confidence, perception of Karma or spiritual accountability. I believe that for honest people the police are their least concern.


Scott

i think what he was trying to say is that police do not protect individuals... they can't. they protect society by upholding the social contract, which only prevent future crimes by the ever-present threat of punishment for them. if anything, police provide ONLY a post-crime deterrent, because almost nothing they do will prevent a crime in progress, only punishing the perpetrator afterwards.

Where I live, the police mostly stop people who have burned-out tail lights. They mainly leave the bikers alone. Other than that, I'm not sure.

j

Originally Posted by Amyn

I am all for having the right / privilege (privileged right ) to own firearms and fire crackers as we get closer to July 4th , but

I would have trouble believing anything said by

NCPA - Policy Report 176 - Myths About Gun Control

as their opinions are mostly right wing rhetoric.

Who would you suggest then?

Originally Posted by Amyn

I am all for having the right / privilege (privileged right ) to own firearms and fire crackers as we get closer to July 4th , but

I would have trouble believing anything said by

NCPA - Policy Report 176 - Myths About Gun Control

as their opinions are mostly right wing rhetoric.

Will you accept this:Can Gun Control Reduce Crime? Part 1

Originally Posted by JMS

Will you accept this:Can Gun Control Reduce Crime? Part 1

Pretty hard-core libertarian, and therefore suspect.

No information seems to be available on their funding.

j

Originally Posted by Nord Jim

Pretty hard-core libertarian, and therefore suspect.

No information seems to be available on their funding.

j

How about this, just to add a little more fuel...
Interview with John Lott, author of More Guns, Less Crime

Originally Posted by JMS

How about this, just to add a little more fuel...
Interview with John Lott, author of More Guns, Less Crime

You need to bear in mind the statistical "confounding variable." That's the often outlying factor that may not have been considered that renders the hypothesis suspect.

In this case, he cites data from 1977 to 1994. The confounding variable in that time period is that the Baby Boom generation passed through the primary violent crime-committing years. All violent crime decreased in those years for that reason.

Doesn't disprove his theory, but renders his assertions unproven.

j