Thread: Barack and his Wife

Yeah even though its in its own bracket I should put "So over here, in the non colonials, the people just don't care" that line before the one you quoted to help delineate. Hope it helps you.

Since this thread is still going, might as well post some satire that's actually funny:

JibJab -- Time for Some Campaigning

Originally Posted by I am Spartacus

please refer to the topic of the thread for verification

The thread shows a satirical political cartoon showing the Obamas burning a US flag in militant Muslim garb, and the original poster comments on how accurate it is. I'm still waiting for the response to the question of just which aspects he considered accurate.

To be totally honest, the Obama's have not been their own best advocates. Mrs Obama's statement that "For the first time in my adult life, I am proud of my country" certainly didn't help their perception any. Plus the hoo ha with the nutty minister's sermons. For someone so smart, to not notice the statements over the years shows one of two things: (1) he's a bad listener (2) he rarely attended church, and that's giving him the benefit of the doubt...I could be cynical and say that he subscribed to those views, but I have no proof. His flip flops haven't seemed to hurt him too much, but does concern me a little. Personally, my gut instinct is to be very afraid of the man.

Originally Posted by freebird

Personally, my gut instinct is to be very afraid of the man.

amen brother eye patch

as for the original topic... perhaps I got this confused with another thread

allow me to clarify what I meant

there are quite some number people living in the US that have no feelings of loyalty but rather live here simply for the economic benefit

one distinct group is " African Americans"

many hold Africa as their home country (even though they have never been there and wouldn't live there) and use the US for everything they can

I'm sure some of those 8 million Muslims feel the same way

example?
seems Bin Laden spent some time here didn't he?

Spartacus
I think your remarks are way out of line....

this thread is going to hell in a hand basket really quickly.....

Originally Posted by Amyn

Spartacus
I think your remarks are way out of line....

this thread is going to hell in a hand basket really quickly.....

ok... um sorry

what did I say wrong so I can apologize for something specific

BTW, this is why I lurk

You might consider rereading this

there are quite some number people living in the US that have no feelings of loyalty but rather live here simply for the economic benefit

one distinct group is " African Americans"

It comes across to me in a racist way. maybe you didn't mean it that way, so clarification might help I'm of the opinion myself that a US citizen ought to identify themselves just that way (as Americans or United Statians perhaps) without the African, Mexican, Italian, etc etc necessarily and constantly attached to the identity, especially for 4th, 5th etc generations.

Originally Posted by hoglahoo

You might consider rereading this


It comes across to me in a racist way. maybe you didn't mean it that way, so clarification might help I'm of the opinion myself that a US citizen ought to identify themselves just that wa (as Americans or United Statians perhaps) without the African, Mexican, Italian, etc etc necessarily and constantly attached to the identity, especially for 4th, 5th etc generations.

+1 Spartacus please read lees post...

Originally Posted by hoglahoo

You might consider rereading this


It comes across to me in a racist way. maybe you didn't mean it that way, so clarification might help

ok........

it would seem to me that racism is defined as

Definition of racism - Merriam-Webster's Student Dictionary

or the definition that I have in my Websters Ninth collegiate dictionary circa 1983 is as follows

"A belief that race is the primary determinate of human traits and capacities and that racial differences produce an inherent superiority of a particular race"
or
"racial discrimination or prejudice"


perhaps someone can clarify how I am being racist?

askin a serious question here, not trolling

BTW, sorry to.. sort of hijack this thread, but on the other hand, there have been multiple accusations of lack of loyalty to the US on the part of the Obamas

After all, isn't the cartoon (albeit satire) poking fun at accusations of black separatism ?