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    I was appalled at how she dug herself in to not answer the reading question.
    The way I interpret this is that it was very unexpected for her and she couldn't immediately appreciate the political consequences. She wants to be liked by everybody, but that's only possible if she can pander to that group and then that other group separately. Revealing something real about herself will pin her down and inevitably she's becoming very vulnerable. If she picks only conservative media she'll come out as too narrow minded to be in national politics. If she picks more diverse media she'll puzzle the core electorate she panders to, and God forbid some people may think she could be elitist.

    The mention of NYT in her speech last weekend drew a lot of boos.

    I do hope she reads New York Times, or at least has somebody on her staff read it and brief her on any important issues. After all it's the newspaper with the third largest circulation in US.

    In any case Americans in general still know very very little about her and who she really is. Everything we've seen has been either the campaign narrative, or the opposition research. There are some interviews from before she was in the spotlight, but they seem to fly under the radar.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hutch View Post
    Just listening to her rally in Greenville NC, the rallies remind me of the Hitler rallies, not saying that she is Hitler (nor anything like that), but the crowd is worked up in such a fervor, I can't say that I've seen any politically rally in recent times like these. They respond to her half truths and lies like a pack of hungry lions, if the let Obama in there I'd swear that they would tear him limb from limb. The real problem is she's preaching to the choir, and I don't think it plays well with undecided moderates and independents, which they need to win.
    Hi Hutch,

    Yeah, I agree she's playing to a certain type of audience. Hehe, let me just mention my thoughts of the recent GOP convention. I know it's been a while, but a basic theme sticks in my mind.

    It looked to me like the audience coulda been at home in multiple other venues. The energy, coupled with the unwavering belief in what was being fed them, reminded me of a few things. I could easily see these people in places such as:

    The Jerry Springer Show
    'Professional' Wrestling Matches
    Old Timey Revival Meetins

    I'm sure I left a few out, but you get the idea. Now keep in mind I'm being serious.......that convention's audience (base) had bits of all those on that list.

    Am I wrong, but is THAT the group who Mrs Palin is playing to? Pretty revealing if that's the case. Now sure, I'm NOT saying all Republicans are like that.........not at all. Please know I certainly understand there's some very very smart people in that party as well. Hehe, it's just I don't think they'd go along the way the faithful and unquestioning base would on some issues.

    Yeah, thank's for the observation Hutch,
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    Quote Originally Posted by JMS View Post
    You guys are just slinging stuff against the wall in hopes that something sticks! Can we get back to more reasoned conversation?
    Well, you are still to tell us your reasoning on the subject. Please show us how it's done.

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    You think the Republicans would support US musicians at the Sarah Palin Rally, no they play Tom Cochrane and Shania Twain. So much for supporting jobs in the US.

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    Quote Originally Posted by gugi View Post
    Well, you are still to tell us your reasoning on the subject. Please show us how it's done.

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    For accuracy's sake the "kill him" , "sit down, boy" and other racial slurs, were from a rally in Florida, Clearwater, I believe, they were not at the Greenville Rally.

    You know you've gone overboard when Carl Rove says that you have, he's far from a moderate voice.

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    Hi All,

    Here's an older song I've always liked, but it kinda takes on a new meaning now. I'm sure most of you have heard it before, and I included the video with the words on the screen. Yeah, the words are what makes this a bit special.

    Seems like this thread's as good a place as any to post the thing, and I hope a few members enjoy it. The song's done by Blues Traveler, and is called 'Hook'. Yeah, as in hooking someone in.
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    YouTube - Blues Traveler - Hook

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    Thanks Martin, very appropo. Truly loved the accapella version, those kids were awesome!
    It is easier to fool people than to convince them they have been fooled. Twain

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    Hi All,

    Since the election's in just a couple days, I figured these few opinions should be included. It was so sad seeing Mrs Palin's lack of support here........not one Republican could come to the poor woman's defense. Well, maybe I can fix that.

    I'll include a few links to people who have no problem writing about the many virtues this lady has to offer. I'm shocked to find myself posting these, but I DO want to be fair in making my decision. Yeah, there's always two sides to every story,and it's only right I include the Republican opinion.

    You know, this is a great site that I'm steering y'all to. I shoulda gone to this source much earlier for help in a Palin defense. These people seem nice..........

    Yeah, this place was in the news a couple weeks ago........maybe a few of you remember the deal? It had to do with the founder's son (his endorsement for President), if that helps. I think many of you will enjoy these two articles. I know I certainly found them a good read.
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    Sarah Shows the Way by Michelle Easton on National Review Online


    http://article.nationalreview.com/?q=M2Y2NTNjMWIwYjI5MTUxNjliMTIwNDdmYzJiODk3Zjk


    Oh.......Sarcasm disclaimer is in effect.
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    Michelle Easton is the worst kind of person, because she knows it's all BS, but she knows that the stupid will buy this BS and vote for it. The conservatives have figured it out, many Americans like stupid, they feel inadequate to smart people, they crave someone "just like me", I fear this attitude is only getting worse. There might be one silver lining in this cloud, the "policy conservatives" might finally separate themselves from the "cultural conservatives". The Conservative party at the moment is perfidious, they are the embodiment of the Id (and thats not intelligent design).

    Give me a break, comparing Sarah Palin to Kennedy and Regan. "She got there on her accomplishments", right a mayor of a small town and the governor of a state that doesn't have the population of most big cities. There are millions of women that are smart and have accomplished way more than Sarah Palin. I really hope this is the last we have heard of Sarah Palin, but I fear not.

    She's "A Happy American Warrior", personally I think the description of Hateful, Ignorant, Shrill Shrew is a more accurate description. Watch her she only looks happy while she's spewing venom, she looks miserable while talking about policy.
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