Thread: History and the stimulus package.

Originally Posted by Nord Jim

Good news! The people who were holding the weak and foolish in thrall and who were indefensibly imposing their asinine policies upon us without our consent have been voted out of office. That's the wonderful thing about a democracy. We can always vote the rascals out.

Hope your drilling goes well. Not sure you'll find oil in Michigan. Natural gas, maybe?

j

Sorry Jim, Obama like most other democrats are in the pockets of the ultra rich just like the repugnicans, different bobblehead same suit of clothes. You are missing the same point Mark is, there is no difference between the parties or the philosophies, all money and all power goes to the top, everyone else be damned.

Originally Posted by nun2sharp

Sorry Jim, Obama like most other democrats are in the pockets of the ultra rich just like the repugnicans, different bobblehead same suit of clothes. You are missing the same point Mark is, there is no difference between the parties or the philosophies, all money and all power goes to the top, everyone else be damned.

I have known many politicians in my life, and they run the gamut like everyone else -- saints, sinners, knaves, and kings. To say that all politicians are dishonest is about as untrue as to say that they're all saints. The biggest problem with them is that they tend toward an unhealthy self-absorption. But election day can cure that.

I think anyone who says that there's no difference between parties has missed the lesson of the past few years.

Political action is the only way we avoid anarchy. Our job is to make it work. As I see it, the biggest problem right now is politicians who try to keep us at each other's throats. We should find again the mutual respect on which we built this nation.

I know that sometimes, it seems like we take two steps forward (if we're lucky) and one step back, but that's how it goes. But we need to go forward together. That's why I get into these discussions, and why I have trouble showing patience to people who are committed to division.

j

Originally Posted by Nord Jim

Good news! The people who were holding the weak and foolish in thrall and who were indefensibly imposing their asinine policies upon us without our consent have been voted out of office. That's the wonderful thing about a democracy. We can always vote the rascals out.

Hope your drilling goes well. Not sure you'll find oil in Michigan. Natural gas, maybe?

j

Your half right we voted out a president who exagerated the power of his office in untold ways and thereby endangered this republic.

Then we voted in one who is a charismatic idiot who thinks the previous administration was to conservative with its domestic policies.

Give me liberty or give me death, the day is coming.

Originally Posted by Wildtim

Your half right we voted out a president who exagerated the power of his office in untold ways and thereby endangered this republic.

Then we voted in one who is a charismatic idiot who thinks the previous administration was to conservative with its domestic policies.

Give me liberty or give me death, the day is coming.

I assure you, Obama is nobody's idiot. Nor did he claim that Bush's domestic policy was "too conservative." In many ways, I find Obama far more conservative than the Neo-Cons.

Like many people -- it seems a majority -- I really hate this Recovery Act. But like most, I believe it's necessary. If you disagree, try to convince a majority. It's a simple as that. No need for drama.

j

YOu are quite correct he is very much his own idiot, noone elses.

70% of Americans do dislike the "recovery act" Or as I like to call it the Communist takeover of America. That hasn't stoped our pork hungry congress from voting for it and it won't stop our future fuhrer from signing it into law.

He is for abortion on demand, gun control, gay marriage, and socialized health care, he doesn't actually have to say that the previous administration was too conservative in so many words now does he?

I don't know why anyone who has even read part of this act and has a lick of sense would think this act is in any way "necessary" even the congressional budget office thinks that it will make things worse.

Originally Posted by Wildtim

YOu are quite correct he is very much his own idiot, noone elses.

70% of Americans do dislike the "recovery act" Or as I like to call it the Communist takeover of America. That hasn't stoped our pork hungry congress from voting for it and it won't stop our future fuhrer from signing it into law.

He is for abortion on demand, gun control, gay marriage, and socialized health care, he doesn't actually have to say that the previous administration was too conservative in so many words now does he?

I don't know why anyone who has even read part of this act and has a lick of sense would think this act is in any way "necessary" even the congressional budget office thinks that it will make things worse.

As for your rant over the social issues mentioned in your post: elections have consequences. This past election was a referendum over these exact issues, among others. In case you missed it: your side lost. Perhaps your bitterness over this defeat explains your resort to invoking Nazi terminology in referring to the president of the United States. Perhaps you also missed the larger point of the '09 election--to wit, that most of this country's populace is no longer interested in engaging in the type of slash-and-burn, partisan rhetoric typified by your post . You are obviously not an Obama supporter, but to equate him with Hitler just because of your disagreement over his financial plan is just plain disgusting.

When his policies stop reminding me of those the Natzies used to rise to power in the thirties I will stop reminding everyone of the consequences of following them with my "rhetoric". Or would equating him with Mao be more accurate.

I find his self-characterization as Lincoln re-born to be disgusting in the extreme.

A "referendum", what a laugh. 52% of the popular vote and we all know that there was a large segment of the population that never looked beyond the color of the guys skin.

Here's your referendum
YouTube - BRAINWASHED OBAMA Supporter... This is CRAZY!!!