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    Shaves like a pirate jockeys's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by sparq View Post
    No problem, JMS. No, I am not Muslim and I would feel exactly the same regardless if the murderer was Christian, Jew, a communist or John Galt.
    blasphemer!!! john galt can do no evil!

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    Quote Originally Posted by JMS View Post
    I dont hold them responsible gugi.
    They didn't commit the murders, their silence however, implied that they agreed with the murders Even if they didn't agree with them.
    That's a bit of an odd way to judge people, but it's your way I suppose. It seems to me that it would be either rather overwhelming to keep track which religious community falls short by skipping a condemnation of a given murder, or you have different standards for different religions.

    In my view stereotyping is wrong and it never leads to anything good - use at your own risk.

    The guy is a nutcase in my book, but so are many people.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sparq View Post
    No problem, JMS. No, I am not Muslim and I would feel exactly the same regardless if the murderer was Christian, Jew, a communist or John Galt.
    Who is John Galt??

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    Quote Originally Posted by Englishgent View Post
    Who is John Galt??
    Some engineer or something.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Englishgent View Post
    Who is John Galt??
    well spoken, sir.
    Quote Originally Posted by smokelaw1 View Post
    Some engineer or something.
    the point of asking that question is not to find out the answer. it is a common rhetorical question intended to provoke thought concerning a hopeless situation.
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Ga...ohn_Galt.3F.22

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    You are welcome.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jockeys View Post
    well spoken, sir.

    the point of asking that question is not to find out the answer. it is a common rhetorical question intended to provoke thought concerning a hopeless situation.
    John Galt - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
    I'm familiar. It was an attempt at being funny. He was, if I am not mistaken, an Engineer at 12th Century.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sparq View Post
    The less I'll hear the word "Islam" related to that disgusting and inhuman crime in the media the happier I will be. This gruesome murderer and all who are watching his case must be given a clear message that his act is not tolerated in our society and no more discussions are required. Period.

    Overuse of religious and multi-culti rhetorics in media will only lead to apologetic bullsh*tting of all kinds and demands for respect based on that animal's origin.

    Fair enough! I'm just not sure how to sort the mentality with the behavior. I had a friend a few years back that was Muslim: he was a wonderful person with a heart of gold! We'd often discuss religion as I love theology. The topic came to honor killings and I said I didn't get it. His reply was very simple and very disturbing: "If a Muslim father is dishonored by his family, wife, children, friends, or anyone for that matter, it is commanded by Allah to regain his honor by killing the one who dishonored him." (It isn't verbatim but very close.) I asked him if he could possible kill his wife, his children, another person, or me and his reply was: "Do not ask what you do not want to hear!" That was the end of one of the best friendships I've ever had!

    I know of no other culture / religion that teaches where taking the life of a loved one because they did not do as you asked is acceptable. Sparq; you come up with a better name and I'll use it!

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    Quote Originally Posted by jockeys View Post
    check out The Naked News. no, I'm not kidding. I should get modded +5 informative for this...



    I shall never watch the news the same way again! Thank you Jockeys! You have made a friend for life!



    Speaking of which; I have not clue what they were saying...... have to watch it a few more times

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    Quote Originally Posted by jmueller8 View Post
    I know of no other culture / religion that teaches where taking the life of a loved one because they did not do as you asked is acceptable. Sparq; you come up with a better name and I'll use it!
    I am not in a disagreement with you. I personally find their system of values and lack of respect for life and for free will unacceptable; I can not respect such a culture. On the other hand, I do not think that generalizing this case into a Muslim vs. Western way of life clash in the media can help. There are too many politically correct idiots out there who are hungry for their five minutes of fame.

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