Thread: Bank bailout, auto bailout, now tobacco

Originally Posted by Wildtim

Its this type of thought that is keeping it from happening. There comes a time when one realizes that the whole system isn't working and even if we elected the perfect people they still couldn't fix it. At that time we need to reset the board. It isn't even the elected official but the layer upon layer of bureaucracy that keeps things from working as they should and you can't elect this away. You have to cut it out, like removing a cancer, quickly and before it completely ruins the body it is in. I'm afraid that we are now at a point where getting rid of the cancer will be like painful Chemo but that doesn't stop me from recognizing that it needs to be done.

But who do we have to replace the politicians with? Just look at the French Revolution. They pushed the reset button and ended up with the same thing under a different name.

What I advocate is supporting people who are actually in politics to make a difference. So far I've helped 4 candidates in their push for better government- 3 of them were elected! They were/are men who had full time jobs, families, and didn't like the way things were being run.

If grassroots efforts can get someone like Sarah Palin to Vice-President candidacy, then grassroots efforts can replace the corpses in congress. It takes time and work, but it's entirely worth it.

EDIT: It's worth it for the right people to get elected. I don't think Sarah Palin is qualified for much in the public office.

Like I said though the problem in many cases isn't the congresman, its the fact that he has a 20 memebr staff most of whom haven't left Washington in decades. Or tthe fact that we have depatment whos whole job is to watchother departments and report to ta third. These parts of the government just plain don't need to exist.

yeah the bureaucratic branch is the real deal killer imho

who elected these idiots?

how do you get rid of an obama tsar?

Wondering what the interpretation of this no flavored tobacco thing will do for my favorite acid cigars, or are cigars and pipe tobacco exempted from the legislation that was signed. As always I like the rest of you am extremely happy when the .gov protects me from me. After all someone had to do it.

Originally Posted by citizensoldierny

Wondering what the interpretation of this no flavored tobacco thing will do for my favorite acid cigars, or are cigars and pipe tobacco exempted from the legislation that was signed. As always I like the rest of you am extremely happy when the .gov protects me from me. After all someone had to do it.

No, cigars and pipes are fine for now. However, the law does give the FDA authority over ALL tobacco products. The FDA could ban all tobacco outright if it wanted to.

Originally Posted by Quick Orange

No, cigars and pipes are fine for now. However, the law does give the FDA authority over ALL tobacco products. The FDA could ban all tobacco outright if it wanted to.

I bet it would rather make money off of tobacco. After all it is for the children.

I think this explains it. These are the same people that voted for Congress mind you.

Originally Posted by slt5103

I think this explains it. These are the same people that voted for Congress mind you.

If these are the average voters we have serious problems!

Originally Posted by slt5103

I think this explains it. These are the same people that voted for Congress mind you.

This proves that the electorate doesnt vote for anybody, rather they vote against the other guy.

Originally Posted by slt5103

I think this explains it. These are the same people that voted for Congress mind you.

How does this foolish video explain anything? Did you watch the video you posted? It said they (the maker of the video) wanted to see what "Obama voters actually knew about the campaign." It said, "So on election day we spoke to the most informed Obama voters we could find." They interviewed a dozen Obama voters...". If I were you I would do some research before spewing nonsense. The guy made the video by editing interviews with twelve people to show they didn't know the answers to his meaningless questions. Twelve people are in no way a valid cross section of a population of 66,882,230 (The actual number of people who voted for Obama). It is good to hear him try to defend Sarah Palin. She needs all the help she can get.