Health Insurance in the USA

**JimmyHAD** · 08-03-2009, 04:45 PM

one more here

**xman** · 08-03-2009, 04:50 PM

Originally Posted by JimmyHAD

http://www.google.com/url?sa=t&sourc...ymuFL9dHZiuS2w

Tragic. Any development in the case?

**JimmyHAD** · 08-03-2009, 04:58 PM

Originally Posted by xman

Tragic. Any development in the case?

I don't know X. I just heard of it on the Bill Moyer's show Friday night. The link in the post above.

**JimmyHAD** · 08-03-2009, 05:01 PM

Originally Posted by JMS

And while her family was waiting for the insurance company to get off of their duff why wasn't the mother and father harrassing the doctors until they did the transplant or call every charity organisation and every person they know, or have a fundraising drive to get the money they needed to get the transplant done?

They did exactly that . If it hadn't of been for their organizing demonstrations heavily participated in by doctors, nurses and other health professionals the insurance company wouldn't have capitulated.... albeit too late.

**JMS** · 08-03-2009, 05:06 PM

Originally Posted by JimmyHAD

I don't know X. I just heard of it on the Bill Moyer's show Friday night. The link in the post above.

And there will be more. They will hunt high and low, turn over every rock to prove we need a national system, all the while ignoring the flaws in the system they are touting.
how would you like to be turned away from the hospital at 65 because your worth to the government is less than the cost of care you need and unlike our system now you will have no other choice than to comply.

**JMS** · 08-03-2009, 05:10 PM

Originally Posted by JimmyHAD

They did exactly that . If it hadn't of been for their organizing demonstrations heavily participated in by doctors, nurses and other health professionals the insurance company wouldn't have capitulated.... albeit too late.

They demonstrated to get the insurance to pay, not to get the help their daughter needed. Thats my point they chased after the devils promise instead of searching for real help

**Leighton** · 08-03-2009, 05:11 PM

Originally Posted by JMS

It neither takes a genius nor an assumption to understand that you can not know the hearts and minds and personal experiences of us who do not believe that a national health care is the way to go.

No one has waited when they know their help is needed. If this lady in the video had opened her eyes and her mouth sooner someone would've stepped forward to help. This I am certain of. We are not in the habit of letting our fellow citizens die in the streets.

If people are inherently good and will undoubtedly help their fellow man, please explain this.

YouTube - Hartford Man Hit by Car and No one Helps

**JMS** · 08-03-2009, 05:14 PM

Originally Posted by Leighton

If people are inherently good and will undoubtedly help their fellow man, please explain this.

YouTube - Hartford Man Hit by Car and No one Helps

Police: Woman raped, witnesses do nothing - Broadsheet - Salon.com
Woman Raped in Washington Park as Hundreds Watched, Nobody Intervened

Not to mention the case where a woman was gang raped in a crowded bar and no one did anything.

This crap happens all the time.

**JimmyHAD** · 08-03-2009, 05:33 PM

Originally Posted by JMS

And there will be more. They will hunt high and low, turn over every rock to prove we need a national system, all the while ignoring the flaws in the system they are touting.
how would you like to be turned away from the hospital at 65 because your worth to the government is less than the cost of care you need and unlike our system now you will have no other choice than to comply.

We're friends Mark and I don't mean this as a personal affront but I have to say that my impression is that this is an example of ideology trumping facts. I don't think you really believe that would happen in the real world if we had a NHS.

It certainly isn't the case in the rest of the industrialized world where NHC is a given. The fact that here in the USA 47 million Americans have no health insurance is bad enough but those that do have it must live in fear that if the day comes when they are stricken with a serious illness the insurance co will make them fight for treatment if they don't cancel them to begin with. Something our European brethren don't have to worry about.

**JimmyHAD** · 08-03-2009, 05:35 PM

Originally Posted by Leighton

This crap happens all the time.

Yes and it is not a new phenomenon;

Kitty Genovese - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

If you read the whole thing it is another good reason for a death penalty.

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