Thread: GLOBAL WARMING/CLIMATE CHANGE TRUE/FALSE

Originally Posted by markevens

Do sun cycles affect earth's climate? Yes.

Does this mean that man made changes to the atomoshpere don't have any effect? No


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Have sunspot cycles been quantified and directly coorelated to global cooling and warming cycles???Yes, yes yes.



Sorry Mark, this is a maybe, not a scientific fact. Anyone who tells you it is a fact is either misled or a charlatan. I honestly can't say either way so I won't.
Has CO2 and other global gases theories been proven to cause global warming, or are they a result of a warm world full of respiration of life. The weak point in the theory that makes it just a theory is that the gases always will increase as temps rise because of other laws(Henry's law) and facts(the more life proliferates the more consumption the more the respiration making more CO2).

That is why we are having a discussion about our "belief" in global warming, global climate change or the newest global catastrophe.
No one can argue about gravity, it is a law. Anyone who buys in without doing research are just following popular opinion. This theory has many more questions than answers, again possible? maybe......

Originally Posted by Kingfish

Have sunspot cycles been quantified and directly coorelated to global cooling and warming cycles???Yes, yes yes.



Sorry Mark, this is a maybe, not a scientific fact. Anyone who tells you it is a fact is either misled or a charlatan. I honestly can't say either way so I won't.
Has CO2 and other global gases theories been proven to cause global warming, or are they a result of a warm world full of respiration of life. The weak point in the theory that makes it just a theory is that the gases always will increase as temps rise because of other laws(Henry's law) and facts(the more life proliferates the more consumption the more the respiration making more CO2).

That is why we are having a discussion about our "belief" in global warming, global climate change or the newest global catastrophe.
No one can argue about gravity, it is a law. Anyone who buys in without doing research are just following popular opinion. This theory has many more questions than answers, again possible? maybe......

I'm sorry but just because a segment of the population doesn't believe in something doesn't make it any less factual. When the scientific communities of; Brazil, Canada, China, France, Germany, India, Italy, Japan, Mexico, Russia, South Africa, UK and the USA all agree on something, I'd consider that to be quite factual.

This has nothing to do with theory and law. I don't need a Law of Pollution to know that it exists.

Originally Posted by commiecat

I'm sorry but just because a segment of the population doesn't believe in something doesn't make it any less factual. When the scientific communities of; Brazil, Canada, China, France, Germany, India, Italy, Japan, Mexico, Russia, South Africa, UK and the USA all agree on something, I'd consider that to be quite factual.

This has nothing to do with theory and law. I don't need a Law of Pollution to know that it exists.

Your statement spits in the face of science. Science is the pursuit of fact, with no regard paid to what others believe, regardless of popular opinion... Fact. Concensus believed the world was flat it's not; the sun is not the center of the universe as soon as you start believing popularity because orhers believe it you abandon truth.

Originally Posted by thehekler

Your statement spits in the face of science. Science is the pursuit of fact, with no regard paid to what others believe, regardless of popular opinion... Fact. Concensus believed the world was flat it's not; the sun is not the center of the universe as soon as you start believing popularity because orhers believe it you abandon truth.

OK, I think we're going round and round here and this is turning into a semantic argument over the word fact.

The majority of scientists and academic organizations, which exist to research the very thing that we're debating, have concluded that global warming is, in fact, taking place. I can consider that a fact and sleep well at night, and I fully understand that some people might not.

Agreeing with science is not spitting in the face of it, and if we're going to discredit the professionals because some people think they were paid to say a certain thing then I see no point in continuing this argument.

Originally Posted by commiecat

I'm sorry but just because a segment of the population doesn't believe in something doesn't make it any less factual. When the scientific communities of; Brazil, Canada, China, France, Germany, India, Italy, Japan, Mexico, Russia, South Africa, UK and the USA all agree on something, I'd consider that to be quite factual.

This has nothing to do with theory and law. I don't need a Law of Pollution to know that it exists.

Honestly,
Any of those on that that list you have up there is a good reason to run the other way. And since when does concensus become fact. Concensus becomes dogma that stifles the science we love.

The best part of America has nothing to do with the actual government. Goverment is not the solution, it is the problem.
and for my family in Italy, I love the people, the Italian Politicians, CASINO!!! Have you heard of some of the envirometal programs going on over there? Many over there know, but stay silent, just like is begining to happen here in the states. This USA is best when we do not let them divide us when we have so many important issues to fix, including cleaner homegrown energy.

I get a kick out of watching a single hurricane model. The models are called "spaghetti plots" because every model is different. The hurricane lands somewhere in the average of the plots, sometimes it follows one extreme sometime the other, or as in many cases it does what no one expects.