Thread: CONSERVATIVE/MODERATE/LIBERAL

With Scott on the things that he mentioned. I'm against everything liberal and probly moderate too, even some labeled conservative, don't trust virtually anyone, be skeptical of skepticism, don't be wishy washy. Cancel / end all entitlement programs and subsidies, if it doesn't succeed on it's own merits then don't force everyone to pay for it, if you work and succeed and earn then you deserve what you get, if you are a lazy leach who wants to sponge off of everyone else then starve, charity is only for those with actual 'NEEDS' like the elderly and handicapped. Probly right over there close to 'theoldfat1'. If a criminal gets the death penalty then shoot them out the back door of the courthouse, don't waste millions of our dollars 'caring' for them.

Maybe i'm a liberal, but i think there is no reason to a accept/discard any idea just because it comes from some party. If it works it is ok.
Afterall i have no much interest in politics.

Originally Posted by gregs656

I'm not sure to be honest.

I suspect I lean toward liberal.

Also, that quote is misattributed to Churchil. I think it was a French guy. It would be curious if Churchill said that, he started conservative and became more liberal IIRC.

Thanks, didn't know that. Got this out of the Wiki .....
If you're not a liberal when you're 25, you have no heart. If you're not a conservative by the time you're 35, you have no brain.

• According to research by Mark T. Shirey, citing Nice Guys Finish Seventh: False Phrases, Spurious Sayings, and Familiar Misquotations by Ralph Keyes, 1992, this quote was first uttered by mid-nineteenth century historian and statesman François Guizot when he observed, Not to be a republican at 20 is proof of want of heart; to be one at 30 is proof of want of head. This quote has been attributed variously to George Bernard Shaw, Benjamin Disraeli, Otto von Bismarck, and others.

None of the above.

I lean towards FREE -- which to me is Libertarian that believes in a strong, pro-active, national defense, one that requires a world-wide perspective. See attached.

Booooob, you look so cute. Love the hat. I took that test that gives you results in sort of a diamond shaped field, everyone that I know who has taken it seems to think that it is pretty accurate, it certainly does seem to be. I ended up in the Conservative/Libertarian area.

Originally Posted by TexasBob

None of the above.

I lean towards FREE -- which to me is Libertarian that believes in a strong, pro-active, national defense, one that requires a world-wide perspective. See attached.

sorry bob, i should have included libertarian in the poll since they are a large part of AMERICA too..

Old style conservative:
Deficit spending: no, except if you have a real plan to plug the hole you're digging... sorry, but "the next generation will pay it off" isn't a real plan.
Abortion: not my womb, not my business and even less the government's business... Keep your religion out of my laws.
Marriage: two men getting married doesn't devalue my marriage, none of the government's business anyways. See previous point about religion in law.
Homosexuality: I have absolutely no issues whatsoever with two dudes making out, their life, their choices. See previous point about religion in law.
Taxes: I actually don't have any issues with the amount of taxes I am paying, as I am getting top notch service out of it. Note that I am not paying my income taxes in Germany as I only reside there, I work and pay income taxes in a neighboring state.
Defense spending: overrated right now as warfare moved from frontal confrontation to asymmetrical warfare.

I'm a social liberal, so I voted liberal. But the term Liberal is wiiiide, it contains social liberals and neoliberals, it also means different things in Europe and in the US for example. But essentially I hold the position of John Rawls ideas.

I care more for my fellow human than I do about some Corporation that shuttles jobs overseas to avoid paying the taxes.

As far as Liberal / Conservative whatever... If you neatly put yourself into a box then you get what you deserve. It depends on the question / situation. In some instances I am "conservative" - though I don't believe in the whole bible thumping aspect of conservativism. In some instances I am "liberal" - not to the extent I believe in wealth re-distribution.

I vote for whatever benefits me, not some political Party.

Originally Posted by wpfontenot

I care more for my fellow human than I do about some Corporation that shuttles jobs overseas to avoid paying the taxes.

As far as Liberal / Conservative whatever... If you neatly put yourself into a box then you get what you deserve. It depends on the question / situation. In some instances I am "conservative" - though I don't believe in the whole bible thumping aspect of conservativism. In some instances I am "liberal" - not to the extent I believe in wealth re-distribution.

I vote for whatever benefits me, not some political Party.

It reads like you put others in boxes.