I understand there is a significant difference in the message and fellowship between Jesus Christ and David Caresh.

What I am saying is that your argument, that people willing to die for the person they followed should be proof of their leaders message, is a pretty hollow argument. You could make that same statement for suicide bombers. Has their religion no seen persecution? are they not doing it out of faith?

We could just as easily say that regardless of why they died or who told them to do it (or even made them do it). The fact is that the members of branch dividian were willing to die for the person they followed. So based on the principals of your statement, their fellowship is just as valid as christianity.

Understand that I am not comparing christianity to a cult, I'm simply saying that your statement proves little. It is just a silly as the video posted by Philidelph about "The Delusion of Religion". Did you watch that video? The guy starts by saying he's going to disprove religion then follows by insulting and talking down to everyone that is not atheist. Using as his only arguments against religion (that I could find) was that religion is false because every rational person outside the bubble of that religion does not believe it and that the originating story of the religions sound similar to a fairytale. Where is the proof in those statements?