The Depths of Pat Robertson's Idiocy Is Breathtaking

**gssixgun** · 01-14-2010, 03:30 AM

Question BJ ???

And this is off topic so please forgive me here...

But you as a fairly left leaning individual (at least you portray one on here) can instantaneously see this for the wacky fruitcake type thinking that it is... BUT !!! (not saying you here ok) Most lefties can't see the same wacky thinking when it spews forth form some Muslim clerics mouth, and jump to defend his 1st amendment right of free speech... From where I am standing it seems that the liberal left has embraced Islam and ostracized Christianity... Can you explain to me Why???

I mean after all it is Robertson's right to free speech here too...

Again I apologize for the

but I don't have liberals to ask where I am from...

**Slartibartfast** · 01-14-2010, 03:40 AM

Only muslim clerics in the US have first amendment rights...

But yeah.. Hate speech is hate speech.

I am conflicted here.
On one hand, lettings these guys shows what idiots they are.

On the other hand, millions of people believe this is the gospel....

Originally Posted by gssixgun

Question BJ ???

And this is off topic so please forgive me here...

But you as a fairly left leaning individual (at least you portray one on here) can instantaneously see this for the wacky fruitcake type thinking that it is... BUT !!! (not saying you here ok) Most lefties can't see the same wacky thinking when it spews forth form some Muslim clerics mouth, and jump to defend his 1st amendment right of free speech... From where I am standing it seems that the liberal left has embraced Islam and ostracized Christianity... Can you explain to me Why???

I mean after all it is Robertson's right to free speech here too...

Again I apologize for the

but I don't have liberals to ask where I am from...

**JimmyHAD** · 01-14-2010, 03:50 AM

Put your hands on the monitor and repeat after me ......

**gugi** · 01-14-2010, 05:49 AM

Originally Posted by JimmyHAD

Put your hands on the monitor and repeat after me ......

^^^don't listen to him!

Instead, send me a donation of $20 or more, these actually work miracles!

**JMS** · 01-14-2010, 05:53 AM

Yep! The double standard always sticks in my craw as well

**jhenry** · 01-14-2010, 06:10 AM

The real issue IMHO is not Pat Robertson's politics, but his theology.

**JimmyHAD** · 01-14-2010, 12:23 PM

Originally Posted by jhenry

The real issue IMHO is not Pat Robertson's politics, but his theology.

This is the real tip. IMO he believes what he is saying and at least some of his audience along with him.

As far as Reverend Wright is concerned, if you grew up in the segregated south, as I did, you might have some perspective on where his hate comes from. Nelson Mandela was able to rise above it but apparently Wright has not. I don't approve of it or condone it but I do understand it.

Where this thread has gone is typical of any issue I've ever tried to discuss or debate with most conservatives. In '73 when the 'smoking gun' was found and Nixon was being impeached I said something about it to a conservative co-worker and his reply was that the democrats did this and they did that.

Fast forward forty years and bring up any travesty committed by a republican politician and the response is not on topic but a retort giving an example of a liberal pol who did the same or worse. Where like a bunch of school kids at recess really.

**rickboone** · 01-14-2010, 10:38 AM

I thought Pat Robertson WAS the devil...then I met Peter Popoff.

**ZMKA** · 01-16-2010, 12:40 AM

Pat Robertson is composed from pure evil...

YouTube - Time Bandits ("It's Evil!")

**JimR** · 01-14-2010, 08:07 AM

Originally Posted by gssixgun

Question BJ ???

And this is off topic so please forgive me here...

But you as a fairly left leaning individual (at least you portray one on here) can instantaneously see this for the wacky fruitcake type thinking that it is... BUT !!! (not saying you here ok) Most lefties can't see the same wacky thinking when it spews forth form some Muslim clerics mouth, and jump to defend his 1st amendment right of free speech... From where I am standing it seems that the liberal left has embraced Islam and ostracized Christianity... Can you explain to me Why???

I mean after all it is Robertson's right to free speech here too...

Again I apologize for the

but I don't have liberals to ask where I am from...

Glenn, I am pretty damned leftist. I mean, bring on the gay marriage, redistribution of wealth and socialized health care.

But who is saying Pat Robertson doesn't have freedom of speech? No one is saying anything about throwing the guy in Jail. It shouldn't be illegal for him to do what he does, but that desn't mean it's RIGHT for him to do it, either.

I would LOVE to see Pat Roberston penniless, ridiculed and ignored for his hateful words, but not in jail. Just like I think Reverend Wright should shut up and keep his hate to himself. Just like I think Mark should keep...erm...I mean, umm, Mark's a pretty good guy, so he can keep talking.

It's my freedom to say this guy is an asshat and I wish he'd shut up, and it's a freaking travesty that people believe him. Sure. Why can't a leftist have an opinion? But NO ONE is saying it should be illegal--which is what the 1st amendment is all about. Telling someone to shut up, and demanding that governments MAKE someone shut up, are two different things.

There is NO double standard in lamenting hate speech, and defending someone's right to freedom of speech. In fact, they really should coexist, because defending speech you agree with is pretty easy. Defending speech you DON'T agree with, that's the test of someone who really does believe in rights.

If you guys want to debate double standards, let's talk about Republican politicians and "Family Values".

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