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    People are allowed to think or say whatever they want, but Robertson is a very visible public figure with a lot of influence, so he should understand that spouting this kind of nonsense is going to create a lot of attention he doesn't want, and encourage his more idiotic followers in a way that no one wants. I'd say that ethics should enter into what it is he does on some level, but the guy clearly doesn't have any common sense, so that's obviously not going to work.

    On a side note, I hope Haiti's copy of the agreement, signed in blood by its citizens and notarized by the devil himself, wasn't harmed by their earthquake. As I understand it, the document, which is printed on a scroll of human skin, was being housed in an archive in one of the more devastated areas.
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    The real issue IMHO is not Pat Robertson's politics, but his theology.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Blade Wielder View Post
    People are allowed to think or say whatever they want, but Robertson is a very visible public figure with a lot of influence, so he should understand that spouting this kind of nonsense is going to create a lot of attention he doesn't want, and encourage his more idiotic followers in a way that no one wants. I'd say that ethics should enter into what it is he does on some level,
    I do agree but what of reverend Wright and his spoutings? These and the spoutings of certain imams that are given a pass regularly are the sort of double standards I am referring to, as I believe Treydampier and gssixgun were also referring to.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JMS View Post
    I do agree but what of reverend Wright and his spoutings? These and the spoutings of certain imams that are given a pass regularly are the sort of double standards I am referring to, as I believe Treydampier and gssixgun were also referring to.
    I'm not sure who that is. Show me something I can read or watch and I'll give you my opinion!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Blade Wielder View Post
    I'm not sure who that is. Show me something I can read or watch and I'll give you my opinion!
    Whats a monkey know anyways ?

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    He we go Mr Monkey. A little primer on Wright just for you: YouTube - Barack Obama Pastor Jeremiah Wright NEW TAPES!!!!

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    Sometimes I wish I was an administrator of 'real life' as well.
    There is a truckload of people who need to be dealt with for being assholes who cannot be bothered and try to get along.

    As for the left vs right discussion. One could easily counter with the argument that the conservative right always seem to tolerate Christian extremism but not any other kind

    Personally, I think all religious extremism is bad, as is following a 'holy leader' who takes care of the thinking for you so that you just have to follow and go 'baaaah' or 'moooo'

    It would be fun to point out Patsie's logic flaw in public though.
    - God killed the US soldiers in Iraq / Afghanistan for their pact with Satan.
    - God made Sarah Palin / John McCain lose the election for their pact with the devil.
    - God made the planes fly into the towers. Maybe not all of the occupants had a pact with Satan, but he'd sort them out himself afterwards. After all, there is historial precedent for this.
    - etc

    Tiger Woods is a bit more complex. God granted him success, fame, money, and lots of sex with hawt women. Tiger probably made his pact with Satan sometime afterwards, or perhaps he renegged on the quid pro quo.

    Of course, if Satan is so powerful that he can influence this world enough to make us fall for evolution or seduce innocent priests into fondling their altar boys, how can we know which one is speaking to us (God or Satan). I mean they could tell us, but how do we know they're not lying. Presumably if you can foist evolution on this world, putting on a fake santa beard and a neon halo is not too much of a bother.

    Could it be -going out on a limb here- that we attribute to God what aligns with our personal conviction, and to Satan everything that doesn't?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bruno View Post
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    As for the left vs right discussion. One could easily counter with the argument that the conservative right always seem to tolerate Christian extremism but not any other kind
    The "right" in this thread all seem to agree with Billyjeff Bruno so I am really uncertain as to what you mean.
    I count three thus far.
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    Quote Originally Posted by JMS View Post
    The "right" in this thread all seem to agree with Billyjeff Bruno so I am really uncertain as to what you mean.
    I count three thus far.
    I meant in General. In the US, christians seem to align most with the conservative right. Likewise, many conservative rights seem to be christians.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bruno View Post
    I meant in General.
    You can't even say that in general Bruno.

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