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    Quote Originally Posted by JMS View Post
    ...the latest supreme court decision upholding free speech...

    Let's just clarify here: what that decision did was allow corporations & unions to spend unlimited amounts of money on campaign ads, where previously, the amount that could be spent was limited. No way can Joe Bloggs hope to compete w/ those monsters. The voice of the individual (as opposed to massive moneyed interests) could well & truly be washed out of the picture here. Sorry, but I fail to see how this is a good thing for democracy.

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    Quote Originally Posted by PA23-250 View Post
    Let's just clarify here: what that decision did was allow corporations & unions to spend unlimited amounts of money on campaign ads, where previously, the amount that could be spent was limited. No way can Joe Bloggs hope to compete w/ those monsters. The voice of the individual (as opposed to massive moneyed interests) could well & truly be washed out of the picture here. Sorry, but I fail to see how this is a good thing for democracy.
    Corporations are made up of people are they not? Just as unions are but under the previous laws the unions had the advantage but now its even.

    This is a first amendment issue which states:
    Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances.
    I made bold the part that should make it clear that the court did strike a blow for the first amendment and not against it as you believe

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    Quote Originally Posted by ControlFreak1 View Post
    They do I think make people want to hang themselves after trying to listen for too long, fortunately most people inherently want to live. Too bad for AA.

    P.S. - I'm suspecting that there has been a demonic oppression over Mass. for the past 4+ decades that has finally been lifted.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JMS View Post
    Corporations are made up of people are they not? Just as unions are but under the previous laws the unions had the advantage but now its even.
    So now both unions and corporations can contribute as much as they want to a political campaign?

    I think those of you who are neither in a union or in the management of a sizable corporation got screwed royally. At least you still got your free speech.

    Full disclosure: I have become of the opinion that it's not the free speech, but the money that backs it that matters.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 59caddy View Post
    well now could this be another telling story of liberals and their ideas?
    this event or this thread?

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    Quote Originally Posted by gugi View Post

    Full disclosure: I have become of the opinion that it's not the free speech, but the money that backs it that matters.
    Then explain Scott Brown or why Air America could not make it.
    Air America was backed by tons of money and Brown is an average guy with not a lot of money.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JMS View Post
    Then explain Scott Brown or why Air America could not make it.
    Air America was backed by tons of money and Brown is an average guy with not a lot of money.
    uhm? have you been living under a rock, mark?
    reread the first post - they're bankrupt, that means no money.
    as far as scott brown.... you gotta be kidding me. just think about how come you know about him and you'll probably realize the problem with that statement?

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    Quote Originally Posted by hoglahoo View Post
    this event or this thread?

    BOTH!!!!!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by gugi View Post
    uhm? have you been living under a rock, mark?
    reread the first post - they're bankrupt, that means no money.
    as far as scott brown.... you gotta be kidding me. just think about how come you know about him and you'll probably realize the problem with that statement?
    Bankrupt is right gugi. They are bankrupt because they couldnt make any money doing radio...no one wanted to hear what they were saying, but they started off with tons of money gugi. As far as Scott Brown, I know of him because he managed to take a seat in the senate that has been held by a democrat for 40 + years to represent a state that is 3 or 4 democrats to every 1 republican.
    Scott Brown could've had a trillion dollars and had every conservative talk show host back him and he still could not have won that senate seat unless the average citizen was ready for that change.

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