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    Good post. I enjoy seeing people state the facts while seeming to make an unbiased evaluation. It sucks that the stimulus money hasn't been even half way used. I blame that on the slow actions of government in general. Partisanship and polar opposites in ideology have led us down frustrating path. I always look at things in the lens of dicotomy (yin/yang) and I just feel this dicotomy is exploited in government in order to keep us the people divided and bickering with each other. We are the puppets controlled by the government to think a certain way in order to support their agenda.

    If we can break off from the finger pointing and emotionally charged discussion maybe things can work in a more efficient, harmonious fashion. But the culture of our government does not allow it. And although our president has tried, I believe he is as much a part of it as he is an advocate against it.

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    Well said! We are all pretty similar in our wants/needs and life is much simpler than some people would have you believe. Issues are often intentionally complicated by those seeking to drown your ability to reason where you need to go, so they could take you where they want you to go. More often than not, that place will benefit them at your expense.

    It is very hard to listen when you're talking and I notice that they're, (politicians), are talking all the time. It is a difficult thing, but, it seems they may start out with the right intentions, but, after time, they join the team of "party" and not longer hear us...that is why I'm not too keen on cheering or blaming as it is easy to loose sight of the issue for the person/party...that is what they do, we can't do the same thing...just my way of thinking...

    Anyway, everyone is good here!
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    Quote Originally Posted by JMS View Post
    You got it Brad.
    I am truly sorry if I have caused any hard feelings Brad, as this was never my intention.

    My mother always said that the way to hell is paved with good intentions.
    Listen Mark, I have been told I am a "remarkable person." I guess that can mean alot of things. I hope I may be considered remarkable for my skills or my sense of humor or my generosity or my love for animals or my original thoughts, ideas or designs. I'd like to be remembered for the good things I have done rather than some erroneously perceived affiliation to a political party. At 0600 Monday morning I am going to have a very serious abdominal surgery. I will be away for a while, in Surgical ICU for at least two weeks, if I get out at all. If I don't get back here, I hope I will be remembered for my dog or my photographs or writing or how to make a wedge or inlays or lobster cream sauce. I can't control how you use my name but I'd prefer to be mentioned in your thread because I did something nice for your son rather than because I opposed your favorite president. If all I am to you people is an easy target because of my liberal points of view then I somehow have made a terrible miscalculation.

    Brad

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    Hey Brad,

    I wish you well with your surgery, truly and trust you be back here relatively soon.

    Conservative, moderate, liberal...all subjective terms defined by the individual and to me, basically useless.

    I fellow Pitbull owner...I enjoyed your video of your dog and cat.

    Best Regards Buddy

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    Quote Originally Posted by NYCshaver View Post
    You made this claim: .... It's not true.
    Go check Gallup for yourself, I didn't make up anything. Did you check out the article? They give the numbers from Gallup. I would believe it if you didn't even check it out.
    Check Rasmussen or Zogby too.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ControlFreak1 View Post
    Go check Gallup for yourself, I didn't make up anything. Did you check out the article? They give the numbers from Gallup. I would believe it if you didn't even check it out.
    Check Rasmussen or Zogby too.
    Check it yourself. It doesn't support your claim. You said this:

    Quote Originally Posted by ControlFreak1 View Post
    Ya, that's why BHo has the lowest approval ratings of any President
    Obama has an approval rating of 47 percent from your article.
    That is definitely not the lowest approval rating for a president.

    Bush had an approval rating of 22 percent.

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    Quote Originally Posted by icedog View Post
    Listen Mark, I have been told I am a "remarkable person." I guess that can mean alot of things. I hope I may be considered remarkable for my skills or my sense of humor or my generosity or my love for animals or my original thoughts, ideas or designs. I'd like to be remembered for the good things I have done rather than some erroneously perceived affiliation to a political party. At 0600 Monday morning I am going to have a very serious abdominal surgery. I will be away for a while, in Surgical ICU for at least two weeks, if I get out at all. If I don't get back here, I hope I will be remembered for my dog or my photographs or writing or how to make a wedge or inlays or lobster cream sauce. I can't control how you use my name but I'd prefer to be mentioned in your thread because I did something nice for your son rather than because I opposed your favorite president. If all I am to you people is an easy target because of my liberal points of view then I somehow have made a terrible miscalculation.

    Brad
    Don't worry Brad.
    In the end most of us don't care about the negatives.
    Hopefully we have more grace and honor than to be so petty.
    And I strongly suspect that Mark does.

    So you're safe with us, or me for sure, although it may not always show, I owe a lot.

    ' .... For unto whomsoever much is given, of him shall be much required: and to whom men have committed much, of him they will ask the more.' - Luke 12:48 - Jesus

    Hope to see you back on here soon, healthy and hearty.

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    Quote Originally Posted by NYCshaver View Post
    Check it yourself. It doesn't support your claim. You said this:



    Obama has an approval rating of 47 percent from your article.
    That is definitely not the lowest approval rating for a president.

    Bush had an approval rating of 22 percent.
    Check it again bud, the WHOLE thing. At this point in his term Obama has the lowest approval, at this point in his Bush had 86%. Go look it up, or forget about it and go on with your deluded state of affairs.
    Yes Bush had a low approval, at the end of his 8 years.
    I didn't make up anything.

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    your all peons in the grand scheme of things, show me you an accredited investor, then show me the truth, til then money is king period, for good or for bad.

    Global warming is false eh? I guess it could be, but it seems since god is dead,( science killed him) religious zealots have to believe in something, and in walks Pynchon, letting you have your conspiracy theories... lol

    Cheers
    I love this bs
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    Quote Originally Posted by ControlFreak1 View Post
    Check it again bud, the WHOLE thing. At this point in his term Obama has the lowest approval, at this point in his Bush had 86%. Go look it up, or forget about it and go on with your deluded state of affairs.
    Yes Bush had a low approval, at the end of his 8 years.
    I didn't make up anything.
    Wow I guess you don't even realize what you claimed.
    Did you even read what you wrote?

    You made two claims.

    Quote Originally Posted by ControlFreak1 View Post
    Ya, that's why BHo has the lowest approval ratings of any President
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    Quote Originally Posted by ControlFreak1 View Post
    and has had at this point in his term than ANY President EVER.
    The first claim is wrong. I didn't make any comment about the second claim.

    And again with the deluded comments? Is that your stock response to people who point out your errors?

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