Thread: I mailed razors, they didn't arrive, now what?

I too am sooo glad this worked out for both of you.

Just keep all posted first shave was fantastic! It was a nicer shave then a shevette and I am sure that with more time it will only get better!

Now that I have shaved with it, should I oil it? (and what is a good oil) and should I strop now or before I use it again?

This thread is useless without pictures!!! Happy they arrived!!

Originally Posted by georgebsummer

Just keep all posted first shave was fantastic! It was a nicer shave then a shevette and I am sure that with more time it will only get better!

Now that I have shaved with it, should I oil it? (and what is a good oil) and should I strop now or before I use it again?

From what I've gleaned some strop after use and again before they use again. Others just strop before use. Oil is your decision and depends on where/how you store. If it's in an area with moisture and will be awhile before using again, it wouldn't hurt. Most use camelia and I think mineral oil.

The post office should be able to do a internal track from your end. I have "lost" packages before and the were able to track them down without a tracking number. I also think you should wait a bit before you do anything.

Im sending my good luck mojo your way

Well I should have read all the posts prior to giving my 2 cents

This was an interesting thread. Given the subject matter, one that should be of interest to many of us. I for one, on occasion, offer to hone razors for beginners for free. I shall not ever do that again, based on some of the opinions presented in this thread.

I think the big misnomer in this thread is that an individual that hones a razor is somehow responsible for that razor. The way I see it the owner of the razor is paying for shipping both ways and takes ALL the responsibility for that razor getting lost, anywhere along that trip. It is the owners responsibility to ensure that the razor is shipped via the method that he would like. For example, he should provide the envelope that it will be returned in (something I often request). Failing to specify is the owners fault, not the honer.

Given the general impression that someone that hones a razor for cost and little profit is responsible for the value of the razor if it is lost should be of grave concern to anyone that hones a razor.

I would strongly caution those that hone razors, for anyone, carefully evaluate this thread and the implications that were inferred by many of the posts.

Originally Posted by AFDavis11

This was an interesting thread. Given the subject matter, one that should be of interest to many of us. I for one, on occasion, offer to hone razors for beginners for free. I shall not ever do that again, based on some of the opinions presented in this thread.

I think the big misnomer in this thread is that an individual that hones a razor is somehow responsible for that razor. The way I see it the owner of the razor is paying for shipping both ways and takes ALL the responsibility for that razor getting lost, anywhere along that trip. It is the owners responsibility to ensure that the razor is shipped via the method that he would like. For example, he should provide the envelope that it will be returned in (something I often request). Failing to specify is the owners fault, not the honer.

Given the general impression that someone that hones a razor for cost and little profit is responsible for the value of the razor if it is lost should be of grave concern to anyone that hones a razor.

I would strongly caution those that hone razors, for anyone, carefully evaluate this thread and the implications that were inferred by many of the posts.

Seems to be a "grey area" for most people regarding this topic. Even greater 'grey area' for guys who hone/restore/evaluate for free/favor or very small amount of money to help someone out out of kindness.

I feel as it is the owners responsibility to make sure you specify how (box, padded envelope, first class, priority, tracking, insurance) you want your razor back. I also think that the honer needs to put state type of disclaimer stating they are not responsible for lost or damaged packages. These steps cover most of the bases it appears.

I recently honed some razors for free for 2 separate newbs and paid for shipping out of my pocket. I chose first class in a bubbler since it was the cheapest. Judging by the opinions of some, it would seem like I would be responsible for these razors.

From my standpoint, I think there are solid lessons to be learned for everyone.

However, everyone should take note of the attitude of the two individuals that were involved. Specifically the gentlemanly behavior exhibited by both throughout this ordeal.

The thing that has attracted me to this art and kept me here at SRP is precisely the gentlemanly behavior that wraps itself around it.

I don't think the lesson should be retreat and close your boarders. New guys count on the seasoned guys for help. I have loaned razors through the mail and have had razors loaned to me through the mail. I have honed razors and have had razors honed.

I have not been burned yet, but that day will probably come sometime. I wanted to loan a razor out, but the communication was so bad that I opted not to. But part of being a gentleman is reading anothers character through their behavior.

I would loan or do work for either of the gentlemen involved in this post.

I say let's all raise a glass and toast the behavior of our colleagues involved.
David

Edit - removed the "not" after the word specifically.

I am glad that this worked out well for both parties!! It should be a wake up call to the rest of us!

I often ship small, heavy, machined products made in my shop at home, I always ship USPS with delivery confirmation and buy the insurance also. Since I am retired on a limited income I cannot readily afford to replace the items I ship if they are lost. My buyers refund the amount unless otherwise stated in writing. I will say USPS has the best record of on time and complete delivery of any method I have used locally and internationally over the last few years.

Flat rate boxes are designed? for light weight and need reinforcing tape and internal stiffeners if you ship something that may be broken. Roll the razors in corrugated cardboard a few layers deep and pack them well. Tape around the box on all axis; and...over your shipping label and return address!!

Consider that your package may be dropped about 6 feet or have a heavy package dropped upon it from that height.

I am fortunate enough to have a given market value for the objects I ship. Get a 'Bay auction of a similar item or the original and add the cost of your work if the package is lost. UPS will usually stab you if the item is used unless you can document its used valuation. Even then they will say you packed it poorly. After losing about $600 on a destroyed machine I don't ship with them anymore if I can do otherwise.
Respectfully
~Richard