Thread: Grumpy Old Men

I am assuming World = US in these statements. Because most of these do not apply to the rest of the world.

Originally Posted by 1OldGI

It boils down to national identity, despite our diversity as a country there used to be a commonality, a national character, a national ethos, things we all believed in. Sadly though, we have no national identity left and any attempt to get it back typically gets you branded as a racist and just isn't very PC.

I think our national identity is "I'll take whats mine and then take whats yours too!"

If that sounds like hyperbole, consider the fact that you can no longer say Merry Christmas (you might offend someone).

You can say whatever you want in this country. That is what is so great about it.

it's not Easter, its spring holiday,

Well yeah. But if you are a Christian I am guessing Easter is more important.

we've quit teaching our kids that capitalism is better than communism,

I do not remember being taught that capitalism was better than any ism in the 80s. I remember being though about the various systems with a bias towards capitalism though.

their world is one of moral relativism where nothing is better than anything else and everyone gets a trophy (nay is entitled to a trophy) just for showing up.

I will agree with this when it comes to kids in this country. Unfortunately for them when you grow up everyone you meet is trying to screw you over.

The homeless crack head and the nobel laureat are of equal value.

Sometimes they are the same thing I guess i agree they are of equal value as human beings. As to their contributions to society, I would need a spreadsheet.

The world should be a place where everyone is entitled to not only the same opportunity but the same outcome.

Not really. Income inequality in the United States - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Of course my GED and $7 an hour job entitle me to a $500,000 house.

You can thank predatory lending for that. Those people should have never qualified for a loan. A handful of people/companies made a ton of money off it though.

That's in the constitution ain't it?

Hmm.. Good question. Let me get back to you on that.

I think it comes down to economics. If there is a large latino population, a company will make more money doing this.

*I am assuming they switched to English when you did not understand?

Originally Posted by nicknbleeding

I dont have an issue with a box or instructions having many different language's. I do have one when someone living in a country and refuses to learn or speak the laguage. If i went to a diff country i would try to learn what i could and not get angry because they could not speak my language. I see so much of it here in New England its crazy. I went to a Burger King drive through and they asked me what i wanted in spanish. If your in a country and live there learn the language other wise i feel it is disrespectful. I dont have a problem with Spanish but they dont accomidate anyone else's language, French, Polish, Russan and of the asian Languages.

Ok Rant over! LOL!

Originally Posted by Slartibartfast

I am assuming World = US in these statements. Because most of these do not apply to the rest of the world.



I think our national identity is "I'll take whats mine and then take whats yours too!"



You can say whatever you want in this country. That is what is so great about it.


Well yeah. But if you are a Christian I am guessing Easter is more important.


I do not remember being taught that capitalism was better than any ism in the 80s. I remember being though about the various systems with a bias towards capitalism though.


I will agree with this when it comes to kids in this country. Unfortunately for them when you grow up everyone you meet is trying to screw you over.


Sometimes they are the same thing I guess i agree they are of equal value as human beings. As to their contributions to society, I would need a spreadsheet.


Not really. Income inequality in the United States - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

You can thank predatory lending for that. Those people should have never qualified for a loan. A handful of people/companies made a ton of money off it though.


Hmm.. Good question. Let me get back to you on that.

Typical knee-jerk liberal responses!

(at least they were in English!)

會毀了你

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Originally Posted by hoglahoo

Typical knee-jerk liberal responses!

(at least they were in English!)

This is the U.S. of A. and I make up my own language. I'll sue and send to jail anybody who uses it without paying me the fees!
Now you all owe me a dollar for the translation I just did for you.

There will be no money, but on your deathbed you will reach total enlightenment

Originally Posted by gugi

This is the U.S. of A. and I make up my own language. I'll sue and send to jail anybody who uses it without paying me the fees!
Now you all owe me a dollar for the translation I just did for you.

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Originally Posted by Slartibartfast

There will be no money, but on your deathbed you will reach total enlightenment

hooglalee, is that you? what did you do with slartifartfast, did you leave the dingleberries on the counter or something?



btw, way ahead of you - I'm not planning on a deathbed

Originally Posted by 1OldGI

It boils down to national identity, despite our diversity as a country there used to be a commonality, a national character, a national ethos, things we all believed in.

What were they? What did people believe in? That Black people should have to come in through the back door and be out of town by sundown? That women should shut up and take their licks? That children were a cheap source of hard labor, never mind the black lung or the missing fingers?

What, exactly, was the National Ethos back in the glory days?

Sadly though, we have no national identity left and any attempt to get it back typically gets you branded as a racist and just isn't very PC.

Again, the national identity lamented here, what was it? The only people I've seen saying that things used to be better are old white men--and for guys like that, yeah. It might have been better. But for everyone else, I reckon it was so much worse that giving up the right to treat other people like animals isn't much of a loss.

If that sounds like hyperbole, consider the fact that you can no longer say Merry Christmas (you might offend someone).

I call BS. This is Fox news culture war nonsense, people say Merry Christmas all the time and no one goes to jail. If, however, you are referring to public displays of religious celebration, well...Wall of separation, and all that. Blame the founding fathers, they're the ones who thought it was a good idea to keep the magic dad in the sky out of the courthouse.

[QUOTE]it's not Easter, its spring holiday[/quote}
Good. Zombies are scary.

we've quit teaching our kids that capitalism is better than communism,

It's not. Case in point: The USA, the great bastion of capitalism, is full of broke, desperate people. The Soviet Union, the great bastion of "Communism" (not really, but anyway) was full of broke deperate people. Sounds even to me.

their world is one of moral relativism where nothing is better than anything else and everyone gets a trophy (nay is entitled to a trophy) just for showing up.

Why not? Sometimes just showing up is the hardest part.

The homeless crack head and the nobel laureat are of equal value. The world should be a place where everyone is entitled to not only the same opportunity but the same outcome. Of course my GED and $7 an hour job entitle me to a $500,000 house. That's in the constitution ain't it?

Hello, non-sequiter. Or is that straw man? Whtever the case, have you ever considered that, instead of lamenting the past, you could embrace change? The new world comes every day--and every day the past gets further away. New things can be fun, and are in many ways better than the old...give them a chance. Heck, try learning a little Spanish, learning a second language is a great way to keep your brain agile, and it opens up your head in a great way.