Thread: Are you "Furious".

I honestly fear the hand of this current court and how it will impact generations to come. I am sorry to say that I am glad I am old but will probably live to see our Second Amendment Rights completely dismembered among other things from these so called Obama appointed "justices".

Has anyone read the opinion pieces by George F. Will and Charles Krauthammer. I provided links to them. It spells out how Roberts re-affirmed the Commerce Clause. Trust me my conservative brothers, this is not a doomsday scenario.

What Roberts is accomplished is he took the power of this legislation and gave it to the American people. The time is now for the Conservative and Republican base to be energized by this and elect Mitt Romney and throw out Harry Reid.

This is not a win for Obama, the Constitution won today by being re-affirmed in the fact the the government may levy a tax upon us but it cannot through the veil of the Commerce Clause mandate us to purchase a product or service. Roberts also exposed Obama for the liar he is. Obama's politicking on this matter frequently stated that the mandate is a tax. Well, Roberts just shoved that in his face by ruling it tax. So, Obama did lie when he said "Middle class tax payers will not have their taxes raised one single dime."

Originally Posted by HNSB

Well, if that's the case, then the present IS the history and we should be discussing it.


I like your sentiment.
Maybe I am getting more cynical as I get older; I am curious what this means to you personally?
What is a proud and responsible leader like?

I know what you are saying, I suppose it is a dream. I have kids out of college. Something they were always told to accomplish for their future. College Degrees, Teacher's certificates, A life to lead and student loans to pay. No opportunities. The national manufacturing ratio is nil. I work hard. Always have. No rewards for my kids to work and mine are dwindling. Not as it should be. I guess a good-natured, work together, can-do, elected by the people, bunch of representatives are impossible to find. I don't know how to explain it. It seems that entitlement has trumped hard work and the rewards thereof.
This sort of thing was the downfall of many great civilizations. I suppose it is human nature. Thanks to you all for hearing me! I leave it with You ! God Bless America!

Originally Posted by MasterMason03

Has anyone read the opinion pieces by George F. Will and Charles Krauthammer. I provided links to them. It spells out how Roberts re-affirmed the Commerce Clause.

Awesome.

I hope you realize he did it at the expense of allowing the democrats to tax you for anything they want to.
I know you don't believe for a second that the democrats won't come up with things to tax you for...

Originally Posted by MasterMason03

You know what gugi, if you are going to quote me, do not try to take my comments out of context.

But I did quote you in context.

Originally Posted by HNSB

That goes for me too!

Quoting you was the context.

Originally Posted by xuz

I really am not familiar with the ObamaCare bill as I should be, and what the court ruling did.
Would you mind explaining a bit about what you mean by the supreme court being reduced to being an instrument?

It goes beyond a single incident - in the past the supreme court's 'milestone rulings' (say brown vs. the board of education, roe vs. wade) were not along 'party lines'. Contrast that with recent rulings.

Edit: I know this is very superficial and simplistic, but for more substance you have to look at the opinons and the legal context and precedent. You don't have to be a legal scholar or anything, but you need to be interested enough to read what various legal scholars have to say. And unlike the partisans, those have not been flattering.

Originally Posted by gugi

Quoting you was the context.

Yeah, but my context wasn't in context, so you were still quoting me out of context.
Please refrain from that in the future.

Originally Posted by HNSB

Yeah, but my context wasn't in context, so you were still quoting me out of context.
Please refrain from that in the future.

Nope, you're wrong. Just like anybody else, I can choose to not get involved in the current banter (especially if I find it silly), and instead pick to follow a point that was brought up earlier. Or bring a new one.

I have not misrepresented anything of what any of you were saying, and that's the only thing you can demand.

Originally Posted by gugi

I have not misrepresented anything of what any of you were saying, and that's the only thing you can demand.

Nope. You're wrong.
I demand that if you quote me, you owe me a box of donuts.

Originally Posted by HNSB

Nope. You're wrong.
I demand that if you quote me, you owe me a box of donuts.

Royalty payments can be a bitch...

Originally Posted by Wullie

The way I feel about all of them right now is that the dead ones are the only ones that aren't lying.

However it seems a large majority of dead ones are still voting democrat.

Precisely why Slick Barry Obama will be re-elected. Once you've got that deceased/ illegal alien demographic locked up, you're virtually unstoppable