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    Quote Originally Posted by carlmaloschneider View Post
    Yeah, in the army we went to a place called 'wee jasper' in NSW (New South Wales) I think. It was amazing. I loved abseiling into the chasm thing at night, with candles in coloured glass holders in a circle at the bottom. I did an 'angel dive' thing as we called it; pulling the rope through the figure eight carabiner, facing the drop face first and diving off. I miss judged the distance and pulled too much rope through, I was probably 10 - 15 feet away from facial disfigurement.

    Considering what they used to climb in (I imagine) 50 years ago I guess it's not too important to get too wrapped up in shoes. I think I'll trade comfort over performance. My technique really sucks at the moment; I'm still trying to winch myself up with my arms and I do the opposite of 'commit'. For me, it's more like "I can't do that, that's just stupid, how can I do that?". Although, today, there were a few, "Oh, I did it. I guess I can then..." moments.

    I need to buy one of those grippy exercise machine thingies and use it between sets in my normal weights workout, I think...
    Be carefull to buy such devices in the beginning, you quickly can get a good blessure, just climb at your level or a bit above, after years there still are "I can't do this" moments that pass to "I can!" Repeat, repeat and learn from all the people around you, that's what I liked in bouldering, much more people that you can talk to and learn, there are allways plenty people resting and watching others; with the ropes you're more fixated with 2 people and the wall

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    Quote Originally Posted by Fikira View Post
    The velcro of the shoes I had didn't become less sticky at all, I can assure you that somethimes you would like to remove the shoes VERY quickly! If You're standing on a piece of half a centimeter it tends to hurt... I'm sorry but I don't think walking is going to help, especially in bouldering, I climbed about 6 years to a 6c-7a (European) level and my muscles still had pains, every route has different moves so you push allways other muscles to the limit, my advise should be, do it slowly, take you're time, especially on the fingers, don't do bidoits and such the first years, watch you're body closely!
    Train the basics very good, especially the feet-work, train heel-hooks with good fitting shoes..... And about shoes, don't buy them too thight in the beginning, buy straight shoes, not curved, the thoes must be curled a bit, check the heel, normally you should be able to test the shoes in the store, be shure if you pull with you're heel on a rock, that it doesn't come off, eventually you will learn after a couple off worned out shoes wath YOU need and how small YOU want it to be,

    HAVE FUN!
    Thanks for all that. I'm not walking for training for climbing, just for exercise generally. Normally I lift weights two to three timers a week and walk once a week; the walk to the top of Mt Torrens is pretty intense. I've always lifted weights, from when I was 16 or 17 or so. I can't remember if I posted the link before, but these are the shoes I'm getting this week.

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    This is a cool video. I've been looking at my hallway and wondering about lining it with plywood and making a climbing gym...

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    Quote Originally Posted by carlmaloschneider View Post
    Thanks for all that. I'm not walking for training for climbing, just for exercise generally. Normally I lift weights two to three timers a week and walk once a week; the walk to the top of Mt Torrens is pretty intense. I've always lifted weights, from when I was 16 or 17 or so. I can't remember if I posted the link before, but these are the shoes I'm getting this week.

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    Then there shouldn't be a problem, good for you! Just watch out for the fingers, people told me that the tendons of the fingers needs a couple of years before they are strong enough, I must say, he was right! (after a couple almost ruptures...)

    Have fun!

    Nice shoes by the way!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Fikira View Post
    Then there shouldn't be a problem, good for you! Just watch out for the fingers, people told me that the tendons of the fingers needs a couple of years before they are strong enough, I must say, he was right! (after a couple almost ruptures...)

    Have fun!

    Nice shoes by the way!
    Ta, yeah, the fingers get sore, don't they? :-)
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    Second time bouldering and third time climbing today. I had my new shoes and I quite like them. The salesman was a climber so he seemed to give good advice, and told us about two outdoor bouldering places in South Australia we can get to easily. I actually bought a size 42, which is the same size as my boots, so these were essentially made small. I have one foot larger than the other so got the size for the larger foot.

    The soles are pretty sticky, but of course I don't really know how to use them yet. We met a guy at the bouldering gym who seemed to have really good technique and he gave us good advice. I kept on forgetting of course and reverting to hauling myself up with my arms. I need to learn the hip twisting thing. I kept on at one problem almost all afternoon, I reckon I can get it next week. We were there for about 2 and a half hours today. I taped my fingers up really well but still lost some skin. This is such a good whole body workout!

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    And the addiction begins

    I just back from the climbing gym tonight as well. Most of us are probably given most of the lessons to be learned on our first trip to the gym but it takes awhile before it really sinks in.

    Going by the picture you posted I'd say you at least now understand why keeping the arms straight on an overhang is important If the overhang is great enough...you can't do otherwise!

    That's usually when the "lesson" sinks in...when we have no choice but it use it.

    The hips in thing helps to keep your center of gravity closer to the wall but in some cases it also lets you reach about an inch higher up with the appropriate arm.

    Using your arms too much rather than the legs works itself out eventually as well. Once you reach the degree of difficulty that you can muscle your way up you won't be able to progress further until you develop better technique...thus eventually it corrects itself
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    Quote Originally Posted by gcbryan View Post
    And the addiction begins

    I just back from the climbing gym tonight as well. Most of us are probably given most of the lessons to be learned on our first trip to the gym but it takes awhile before it really sinks in.

    Going by the picture you posted I'd say you at least now understand why keeping the arms straight on an overhang is important If the overhang is great enough...you can't do otherwise!

    That's usually when the "lesson" sinks in...when we have no choice but it use it.

    The hips in thing helps to keep your center of gravity closer to the wall but in some cases it also lets you reach about an inch higher up with the appropriate arm.

    Using your arms too much rather than the legs works itself out eventually as well. Once you reach the degree of difficulty that you can muscle your way up you won't be able to progress further until you develop better technique...thus eventually it corrects itself
    Yeah, that's what the guy was saying and demonstrating, that extra reach you get. I've been watching lots of videos, too. The straight arm makes sense, it uses less biceps. You know when you started straight shaving and you liked it so much you wanted to do it all day but couldn't? Well I'm finding this the same. I'd like to climb for four hours but can't.

    I'm also trying to rationalise my other gym workouts. I normally do chest shoulders and legs on Friday, with back and legs on Tuesdays, but I'm thinking I may really need a longer break between Friday weights and Saturday climbing. I guess my body will adapt. My son, who I go with, is 22 and 6' 2" has a really long reach. I'm only 5' 7" and even though my 'wing span' is longer than my height I still can't reach as far. I was astonished at what I could reach though. On some holds I keep thinking, 'I can't reach that' and subsequently reach it.
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    That brings up a good point and an interesting one to me. I'm 6'1" and several of the people that I climb with are much shorter (both men and women).

    Everyone thinks that every route is easier if you are taller. That's because they are only aware when their height isn't working for them.

    They don't realize it when some hold/move is easier for them and harder for me. If a hold is up above their head but within reach they have no problem using it of course.

    However that same hold may be at or below my waist and may do me very little good when trying to climb higher.

    I think the height thing in general average out. There are usually multiple ways to climb a route as well so it's very seldom when a really good but shorter climber can't climb a route due to height restrictions.

    The interesting thing to do in the gym when anyone (including me) thinks that something can't be done because of height, age, body build, etc. is to look around and find someone similar to you and watch them climb the route that you think you can't

    I'm using "you" in the generic sense here of course and I'm not implying that you were using height as any kind of excuse. It just comes up frequently in climbing where we all make an excuse only to see someone who could have those same "excuses" do the route that we couldn't

    I've a very humbling sport sometimes...just watch a 10 year old skinny school girl climb sometime!
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    Quote Originally Posted by gcbryan View Post
    That brings up a good point and an interesting one to me. I'm 6'1" and several of the people that I climb with are much shorter (both men and women).

    Everyone thinks that every route is easier if you are taller. That's because they are only aware when their height isn't working for them.

    They don't realize it when some hold/move is easier for them and harder for me. If a hold is up above their head but within reach they have no problem using it of course.

    However that same hold may be at or below my waist and may do me very little good when trying to climb higher.

    I think the height thing in general average out. There are usually multiple ways to climb a route as well so it's very seldom when a really good but shorter climber can't climb a route due to height restrictions.

    The interesting thing to do in the gym when anyone (including me) thinks that something can't be done because of height, age, body build, etc. is to look around and find someone similar to you and watch them climb the route that you think you can't

    I'm using "you" in the generic sense here of course and I'm not implying that you were using height as any kind of excuse. It just comes up frequently in climbing where we all make an excuse only to see someone who could have those same "excuses" do the route that we couldn't

    I've a very humbling sport sometimes...just watch a 10 year old skinny school girl climb sometime!
    Yeah, true, a nice reach that might be a stretch but comfortable for me might be a bit 'crampy' for you; with a bent arm and more tension on the biceps.

    Oh, I don't need to use height (or lack thereof) as an excuse, I've got HEAPS of excuses; age, missing tendons, bone rubbing on bone, baldness, the wrong shorts, grumpiness, short sightedness, a bit of a bad night's sleep last night, was a little bit hungry, the music wasn't quite loud enough, I need a new chalk bag...
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