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    Man, just set about making friends with the dogs. That's your safest and easiest bet, in my opinion.
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    Quote Originally Posted by maddafinga View Post
    Imo, the problem here is the owner, not the dogs. I'll bet anything they're entirely undisciplined and un exercised dogs. The owner's failure to do anything to train and discipline his dogs or fix the problem areas his dogs continue to damage show that he never should be allowed a dog, much less a powerful one. Owners like that make more problems for the breed, when in fact they are the actual problem.

    I'd bet if he received a letter from a lawyer about his dogs getting into your property he'd start making some effort.

    I'll also say, before you go plotting violence, why not take some time and get to know the dogs and get friendly with them in a more controlled setting. If they see you as a higher ranking pack member with whom they are friendly, there would not be any danger to you, regardless of which yard they're in.

    Talk nicely to them, without fear, that's important. Give them treats when you see them. Make friends, it goes a long way.

    I believe in being a responsible dog owner and a breed ambassador. Poor dog owners really chap my ass.


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    Here is my vicious, fearsome guy btw.
    Believe me, I know how to handle dogs and I am not the one threatened here. My wife on the other hand does not and is fearful.

    The dogs sense her fear and get very aggressive trying to get under the fence any time they know she is in the back yard.

    As I said I faced one of them down and he retreated back under the fence.

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    Every one can say how great their pit is, but the fact is they are the number one dog that attacks people and kids... I wouldn't want it on my consience no matter how great of an owner i am... That is why I don't own pits... Nor do i condone their ownership.. Thats just my opinion though.. I dont expect to convince anyone different.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Crotalus View Post
    We have tried talking to the neighbor, several times.

    City of Ft. Worth just arrested someone for not keeping their animals in their own yard. Irving's animal control won't even come out unless we have the animal trapped. I don't understand. I even have video of the dogs going under the fence.
    Go to your local newspaper/TV news with your video and any other documentation you may have. Tell them what animal control said, and what the local police said. That might light a fire under their feet.

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    That's because of the culture that had grown up around having powerful dogs and making them dangerous. Pit bulls used to be called nanny dogs in the earlier 1900s, because they are actually very driven to please people and good with children.

    They are the number one in REPORTED attacks for a couple of reasons. 1. There are absolutely tons of them and they're incredibly common. 2. People will report even a defensive snap from a pitbull, where with other dogs the same incident will go unreported.

    Little dogs are VERY frequently much more aggressive and likely to bite. Because people don't see them as dangerous because they're small. A pitbull, or my favorite dog ever, a rottweiler, could never in a million years be able to get away with being as aggressive and dangerous as say a pomeranian or a chihuahua or min pin is allowed to be. A big dog that behaved that way would be put down. Period.

    It's almost never the dogs. Regardless of breed. It's essentially the owner 100 percent of the time.

    If it wasn't pits, those same jack holes would move on to another large breed and do the same with them. Pressa canarios perhaps?

    That's like saying that most people are shot with 9mm bullets so nobody should be allowed 9mm ammo. There are always other calibers.
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    It seems that in the majority of dog attack cases, the owners seem to read from the same script. "I can't believe it, Spot has never been aggressive"! I have owned a Staffordshire Terrier, and two English Bull Terriers in the past. Yeah, big babies. Dog's are a reflection of the owner and care, or lack of, that they have been given.

    You need to do something about the dogs. If you or your wife are in any kind of fear at all, things must change. The worst of things happens too often, a child is mauled. Who's fault? The youngster who sees the cute doggie? The parents for not having said child on a leash? Or the dog, that mauled the kid? The dog owners? However you slice it, it sucks for the kid. I got dog bit as a kid, the dog, Torpedo, kept licking my face as I sat on the lawn with some other kids playing a game. I pushed him away, and he nailed me, put a fang through my cheek, face cheek, such that I could blow air through it. He was a good dog, till he bit a kid a few houses down. No more Torpedo. Just last Summer, a friends grandson got tore up pretty bad, he was not doing anything wrong. This one really pissed me off, because the kid is totally blind. I can't imagine the terror of not being able to see and have a dog eating your face and neck. The kids fine, a little surgery, but fine. AND, for some reason that I can't explain, he still likes to pet dogs!!

    Anyway, please find something you can do. There's one thing I can think of that even a knot head owner will pay attention to. Draw up a contract, nothing too fancy, but leave no loopholes, that provides a very large sum of MONEY to whomever may be attacked by said dogs in the future. Have them sign it, pay the five bucks to have it notorized. Give them a copy. You don't have to have a lawyer do it, just make sure it's written well. If they don't sign, inform the athorities and let them know what you've done. Then ask for their help, because they have just seen that you have tried to take action, THEY are now aware of a potential problem, and now could be liable should something happen. I've noticed over the years, people will talk a big game, till you have something on paper.

    What the hell, it's worth a try.


    If you don't want to go that route, just let the dog dig under the fence into your yard, once he's on your land, waste them.

    Please let us know what you come up with, donv

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    Quote Originally Posted by maddafinga View Post
    That's because of the culture that had grown up around having powerful dogs and making them dangerous. Pit bulls used to be called nanny dogs in the earlier 1900s, because they are actually very driven to please people and good with children.

    They are the number one in REPORTED attacks for a couple of reasons. 1. There are absolutely tons of them and they're incredibly common. 2. People will report even a defensive snap from a pitbull, where with other dogs the same incident will go unreported.

    Little dogs are VERY frequently much more aggressive and likely to bite. Because people don't see them as dangerous because they're small. A pitbull, or my favorite dog ever, a rottweiler, could never in a million years be able to get away with being as aggressive and dangerous as say a pomeranian or a chihuahua or min pin is allowed to be. A big dog that behaved that way would be put down. Period.

    It's almost never the dogs. Regardless of breed. It's essentially the owner 100 percent of the time.

    If it wasn't pits, those same jack holes would move on to another large breed and do the same with them. Pressa canarios perhaps?

    That's like saying that most people are shot with 9mm bullets so nobody should be allowed 9mm ammo. There are always other calibers.
    I agree with you for the most part, I've been around pitts for years, my brother used to use them to take down hogs. Great dogs!! If it were a pit raised by me, I would have no qualms about having them as a nanny dog. Pits could save a thousand babies, but that would be erased by the one that some dope dealer has that kills a kid. The only thing I could nit pic you about is the yippie dogs doing more harm. You are right, I have been bit numerous times by little dogs, wiener dogs seem not to like me. But, it's about potential, and enviroment. Given time, even an even tempered dog on a chain, may become bitey. But, a pit possesses more potential for real harm than does a yippie dog. If wiener dogs got as big as a Rottweiler, I'm sure that they would be on top of the bad dog list.

    Anyway, I'm sure I've made things just clear as mud. Take care, donv

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    Quote Originally Posted by donv View Post
    I agree with you for the most part, I've been around pitts for years, my brother used to use them to take down hogs. Great dogs!! If it were a pit raised by me, I would have no qualms about having them as a nanny dog. Pits could save a thousand babies, but that would be erased by the one that some dope dealer has that kills a kid. The only thing I could nit pic you about is the yippie dogs doing more harm. You are right, I have been bit numerous times by little dogs, wiener dogs seem not to like me. But, it's about potential, and enviroment. Given time, even an even tempered dog on a chain, may become bitey. But, a pit possesses more potential for real harm than does a yippie dog. If wiener dogs got as big as a Rottweiler, I'm sure that they would be on top of the bad dog list.

    Anyway, I'm sure I've made things just clear as mud. Take care, donv
    I agree with that, it's sort of what I was trying to say actually. If small dog bites were as reported as large dog bites the statistics would change.

    I actually know a grown man who lost a thumb to a dachshund. Any dog can be dangerous. Yes large dogs have more potential to be, but that doesn't mean much. A 22 can kill you just like a 45 can, so to speak.


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    And my girlfriend's daughter, 8 at the time.

    I know he's a rottweiler and not a pit, just illustrating about big dogs.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Wintchase View Post
    Every one can say how great their pit is, but the fact is they are the number one dog that attacks people and kids... I wouldn't want it on my consience no matter how great of an owner i am... That is why I don't own pits... Nor do i condone their ownership.. Thats just my opinion though.. I dont expect to convince anyone different.
    Odd that people are advocating open gun use and poison while simultaneously harping about how "dangerous" dogs are.

    The problem is the owner and the owner should be the object of this discussion. Sorry but I don't believe that the organizations put in place to address this sort of thing are unwilling to assist in this matter as outlined in the original post. Animal control exists for a reason and if a property owner: feels threatened, has property damage, or believes that one of their own pets was mauled, then someone will take the appropriate action against that owner.

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    I'll jump in on this one. My friend has a pitty that is a very friendly but when i was over at his house a few weeks ago another friend came over with his little girl. That dog went for her and i beat the piss out of it before the others had a chance to respond. Show that dog who the dominant one is. Or Tazor those buggers.

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