Thread: Assault weopen carnage agian?

Originally Posted by NoseWarmer

That's called firearms restrictions to law abiding people...

Oh, you mean, in other words, "Gun Control"?

Originally Posted by honedright

Oh, you mean, in other words, "Gun Control"?

Sorry to say, but Yep!

Originally Posted by Bruno

Perhaps.
Though you could count on other icidents happening. Kids getting hold of the gun, accidental discharges, lost weapons in a school.
Overall you'd have different problems, not less.

Furcifer-While sitting in a really boring wedding reception this evening, (I know, I shouldn't have!), I read your impassioned rebuttal to my post on the ill-considered idea of arming teachers. I hear what you're saying, and the idea of maybe a 1911 in my locked closet (behind my desk, where students rarely go) wouldn't bother me, as I am proficient, cool-headed, and know how to use it. Still not something I'd want on my hip, or for kids to know I have...

BUT, honestly, I know Bruno is right on in the above quote. You KNOW there would be a national epidemic of accidental shootings, missing and lost guns, possibly even a hostage situation with one of those guns getting into an unstable student's hands-who knows what all could happen?It's a simple numbers thing: how many millions of teachers and students are out there in America? As they are human, there WILL be problems, lots of them, some of them fatal-think about it.

Like most nowadays, our large suburban high school has two Glock-armed school resource officers (sherrif's deputies, who presumably also have heavier hardware locked up in their cruisers), but honestly, there are many adult citizens in every school, unarmed as they may be, who are excellent teachers, but who would be lost with a gun in their hands. Many, like my wife who teaches down the hall, have never held one in their hands.

Now if one of these plans you speak of included a couple/few highly-trained, dead reliable/motivated/honest people in every school who had quick access to a VERY secure, secret firearms locker, then maybe...

Look, a couple hundred posts in, and this very sensitive thread remains mostly civil. One of the reasons I love SRP. Take care, men, and hug your children every chance you get! Aaron

Originally Posted by NoseWarmer

Sorry to say, but Yep!

So it seems that gun control has the unintended consequence (I think) of rendering law abiding citizens defensless and at the mercy of those that care less about laws. Is that right?

Originally Posted by honedright

So it seems that gun control has the unintended consequence (I think) of rendering law abiding citizens defensless and at the mercy of those that care less about laws. Is that right?

Sorry to say, but YEP!

Originally Posted by NoseWarmer

Sorry to say, but YEP!

Well then, that's pretty stupid!

It has been suggested both here and in the media that teachers should carry firearms. I oppose this for several reasons. Teachers are often called upon to break up fights. Imagine the consequences and subsequent outrage if a teacher is somehow relieved of their weapon whilst doing so.

Originally Posted by mapleleafalumnus

It has been suggested both here and in the media that teachers should carry firearms. I oppose this for several reasons. Teachers are often called upon to break up fights. Imagine the consequences and subsequent outrage if a teacher is somehow relieved of their weapon whilst doing so.

This is exactly one of the many consequences I was thinking of, MLA. Guaranteed-that would happen.

Originally Posted by mapleleafalumnus

It has been suggested both here and in the media that teachers should carry firearms. I oppose this for several reasons. Teachers are often called upon to break up fights. Imagine the consequences and subsequent outrage if a teacher is somehow relieved of their weapon whilst doing so.

Maybe teachers carrying at school is not the solution. Or maybe only certain teachers well trained in firearms. Why didn't Sandy Hook have an armed School Resources Officer?

Not sure if this has been covered yet but the shooter lived in a state with strict gun laws. Couldn't buy a gun due to mental health so he stole them and broke in to the school through a window not by the locked entrance.