Thread: Assault weopen carnage agian?

Good point Bob

Dudes, I'm still trying to figure out what the hell a "weopen" is??????????


But don't touch my AR's or my AK's...........and please hurry the "f"-up with the 3 stamps that I've been waiting on since the dawn of time. I want my suppressors!

In order to fix a problem like this is you have to fix the way people treat each other. A part of the reason i like being on this forum is that we accept a persons right to there opinion. We need to be kinder to each other. Treat people the way you want to be treated, even if you disagree with them.
I Believe people like this guy snap because they feel they have been wronged some how, and they just want to get back at them.
Or he's just a crazy bastard and should have been locked up in the looniebin.

Originally Posted by gssixgun

Now for the rest of you

What I find reprehensible in fact down right deplorable is that all of the Gun Grabbing Left climbs right on up using the dead bloody bodies of the victims as their soap box, to advance their anti-gun message, that is truely sick.. Everyone of you that jumped on the soap box built on 20 dead children should hang your head in shame... Chew on that a bit, you all waited for another massacre to speak, Those of us that are shooters have had multiple threads going on this Forum for years.. The only time we hear from the left is when you use death to advance your agenda

When talking about gun crimes you shouldn't ignore those who got killed after someone using a gun, unless you want to create your own beautiful soap box.

Now, i'm not trying to say how you should do there. It's a different country and no concern to me, but of course i was shocked to read the news. Maybe even more than you could imagine. So does everyone around i know.

Now, i'm not anti-gun per se. I have my 9 mm and a rifle but i'm first to admit that not everyone is suitable to own such things, no matter what the law says. Law wasn't written by gods but men that were capable of doing mistakes. I have even more guns, issued by my employer (military). Howevers, i do not keep my guns at home. I dot have a need to do that. I live in a society where i do not have to lock my doors.

The killer, unstable mind will always find their ways, but i'll bet that the death toll of Auvinen or Breivik wouldn't have been that terrible if they had used a kitchen knife, hammer or axe. Guns do not kill. i agree, but guns make killing easier, even from a distance.

We have crimes, but say 95% of them is made when drunk by the legal owners or their family members. In general, using violence to solve the problem is no popular solution here.
If i lived in your country, i would probably arm myself up to my teeth if i though it would be necessary to feel safe.
Guns are great for hunting or target shooting but honestly i do not understand the need of someone to own a full auto or even semi auto. But, as said, it's up to you.
Think about your privileges versus those who have been shot, oops, i shouldn't point at them.

We have a lot of hand guns here and the conversation has been very wide.
Recently, some unnamed web person gave an interesting idea: give everyone a hand gun and enough ammo. Within few years check the statistics. Did the gun related violence go up or down?

Originally Posted by RJD

Dudes, I'm still trying to figure out what the hell a "weopen" is??????????


But don't touch my AR's or my AK's...........and please hurry the "f"-up with the 3 stamps that I've been waiting on since the dawn of time. I want my suppressors!

They just hired 9 more agents to process stamps.
Can't wait to get a few more stamps.

Originally Posted by Sailor

When talking about gun crimes you shouldn't ignore those who got killed after someone using a gun, unless you want to create your own beautiful soap box.

Try reading it again, you have missed the point

Also what is most foriegn to you is our "Right" to own a weapon, I doubt many Non-Americans can understand that... Nor can I explain it to you, it is something that you have to have been born with, I was born with the "Right" to own a gun, period, no man can deny me that Right, only I can cause/allow it to be lost...

Our country was founded by these words,,, They are an Ideal that was passed to us through our Mother's Milk

We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights,

I think that it's probably too late for the USA to regulate either firearms ownership or those with mental problems. The brutal fact is that there are way too many guns and unidentifiable troubled people out there.
The statement that 'it's not the guns, but the bad people that use them' is correct, but how much better would it be if society made a concerted effort to at least try and prevent weapons falling into the wrong hands? It wouldn't be a complete answer but it could reduce the size of the problem. At present the best people can hope for is to try to contain outbreaks of violence and clear up until the next time. My heart goes out to the victims and families.
I'm not anti-firearm, and speak as a lifelong shooter.

OK, emotion aside, what about just thinking it through logically from a policy point of view?

Since the last massacre in the cinema, what has been done? How about since Columbine? What was done then?

Whatever was or has been done hasn't been working. Next question is: what hasn't been done?

Einstein said it best: "Insanity: doing (or not doing) the same thing over and over again and expecting different results."

Right now things seem pretty insane to me in the US.

James.

Originally Posted by Jimbo

Right now things seem pretty insane to me in the US.

James.

Meeeee Toooo !!!!!!! Damn good thing I am armed

Originally Posted by gssixgun

Try reading it again, you have missed the point

Also what is most foriegn to you is our "Right" to own a weapon, I doubt many Non-Americans can understand that... Nor can I explain it to you, it is something that you have to have been born with, I was born with the "Right" to own a gun, period no man can deny me that Right, only I can cause/allow it to be lost...

Our country was founded by these words,,,

We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights,

Read it again and again. To me it's not a problem with man made laws or man made constitution. All the same sh1t if it makes it all possible. .
In the perfect world 0% or 100% of people owned a gun.

But we do not live in a perfect society. I'm only interest that what is it the world today, not only in US but the EU as well, when some people find a solution in taking a gun and start shooting innocent people.

I guess we should start by trying to find an answer to that. What makes using a violence as the 1st solution as an acceptable way to behave? Be it good guy or bad guy.