Thread: Assault weopen carnage agian?

20 dead young children,7 adults by a nutcase back east with a semi .223 today.
This country needs some manner of gun control.As a lifelong NRA Member,I am not continueing my membership as of today.
The 2nd ammendment advocates are a bunch of wacko nut cases IMO.
I just read this on the net and am actually brought to tears.
God has foresakin this once great country.Rant over

Originally Posted by pixelfixed

20 dead young children,7 adults by a nutcase back east with a semi .223 today.
This country needs some manner of gun control.As a lifelong NRA Member,I am not continueing my membership as of today.
The 2nd ammendment advocates are a bunch of wacko nut cases IMO.
I just read this on the net and am actually brought to tears.
God has foresakin this once great country.Rant over

I too shed a tear, and thought for my wife (teacher) and 5 year old step-daughter.
I hope something changes.

Well my thinking is only mentally unstable people would do something like this. So perhaps gun control is only a small part of the equation - what about mental health care?

James.

Originally Posted by Jimbo

Well my thinking is only mentally unstable people would do something like this. So perhaps gun control is only a small part of the equation - what about mental health care?

James.

That too James. The problem with mental health care is that those people are often only identified AFTER they do something crazy.
One would hope that mental health care would definitely help though.

I work in social services with children with mental health issues. We are begging for funding, literally. It really all starts at home though. broken homes create broken children. Some are tough enough to make it, others just crack.

You have to wonder why we now have several generations that are capable to doing this sort of thing. I do not recall one incident of this nature when growing up.

Bob

Originally Posted by alb1981

I work in social services with children with mental health issues. We are begging for funding, literally. It really all starts at home though. broken homes create broken children. Some are tough enough to make it, others just crack.

So does my wife. Although i've been in the military (and 3 deployments) for almost the whole of my adult life, i'll bet she (and you) has seen things i couldn't live with.

Having said this, i'm not to argue about the gun laws here or there. All i'm interested is that why nowadays it is so easy to see the solution in taking the gun and start killing. Not only people you have something to disagree with but innocent bystanders, this time kids, as well. What makes 'kill them all' or even just 'kill' to be a solution?
I have no answer.

Now, i can't even imagine the horror and pain of those involved. I have no words to say.

Originally Posted by Jimbo

Well my thinking is only mentally unstable people would do something like this. So perhaps gun control is only a small part of the equation - what about mental health care?

James.

Agree 100%,but any Human can become unstable for all manner of reasons within minutes,if said human has access to an AR 15 and 1000 rnds of ammo,You will have a major problem occur 9 times out of 10.
I am going to a gunshow tomorrow in Roseville Ca.What i will see is maybe 10 vendors selling all manner of parts for assault weopens,These are not rifles that people use to put food on the table,these are rifles best suited for killing people.
I will see vendors selling case lots of .223 ammo (1000 rnds) why?
Mental health issues are rampant world wide,openly making available (and leagally) non-sporting weopens,huge capacity magazines, as much ammo as you can have,is stupid,JMO

Originally Posted by pixelfixed

Agree 100%,but any Human can become unstable for all manner of reasons within minutes,if said human has access to an AR 15 and 1000 rnds of ammo,You will have a major problem occur 9 times out of 10.
I am going to a gunshow tomorrow in Roseville Ca.What i will see is maybe 10 vendors selling all manner of parts for assault weopens,These are not rifles that people use to put food on the table,these are rifles best suited for killing people.
I will see vendors selling case lots of .223 ammo (1000 rnds) why?
Mental health issues are rampant world wide,openly making available (and leagally) non-sporting weopens,huge capacity magazines, as much ammo as you can have,is stupid,JMO

A very good question, as these firearms are not especially designed for pin point accuracy like a hunting firearm is, and they are made to looser tolerances than a sporting firearm so that they will work under conditions that might see a sporting firearm fail, but which is the reason for the loss of pin point accuracy. And last but not least the ammunition that is designed for these things, is specifically designed for wounding, although obviously it will be effective in causing death. This is because, in battle, a dead man can either be buried by one or left for pick up later, but a wounded man will take four other men off the field of battle getting the wounded one to safety. Assault rifles are just an advancement on a modern sling shot in that they fire faster and with much the same degree of accuracy, but with less skill required for the use of the rifle.

I'm not in favour of these blanket bans, or banning in general, as I've seen that as a failure since it hasn't stopped gun crime in this country. And a system of licencing is only worthwhile if it requires some testing of the user and is issued for the user and not the firearm. Gun control doesn't really succeed if you have a human mind that is willing to commit a crime. Regardless of what the crime is.

Originally Posted by pixelfixed

20 dead young children,7 adults by a nutcase back east with a semi .223 today.
This country needs some manner of gun control.As a lifelong NRA Member,I am not continueing my membership as of today.
The 2nd ammendment advocates are a bunch of wacko nut cases IMO.
I just read this on the net and am actually brought to tears.
God has foresakin this once great country.Rant over

Yeah great, another misinformed rant

Why not wait for the facts, sorry you sound like ya work for MSNBC

Didn't even get the guns right, in fact they are not even sure which Brother was the shooter yet let's all blame the gun first, the Great Liberal punch line as always....
Wonder how many gun laws he broke BEFORE he pulled a trigger ???

Have no fear Obamacare is here it will pay for all those crazies to have Pot and the Good happy happy joy joy drugs..

Yeah rant over