Thread: Assault weopen carnage agian?

Originally Posted by earcutter

Ok think of it this way.

Do you honestly think America would fall apart if all guns were removed from society?

Now were you take every motor vehicle out... in today's world, it would see us in the dark ages.

Not trying to be rude - just think about it.

I think you are presenting a false dichotomy.

Are either guns, or vehicles, the sole factors holding America together? I doubt it. So your question is misleading, but not rude.

The purpose of a vehicle, generally, is to transport someone, or something, from point A to point B.

And the purpose of a gun is to ignite a measured charge and send a projectile rapidly down and out of a barrel.

How those objectives are carried out, and the resulting consequences of any abuse or misjudgement, is completely up to, and is the responsibility of, the person controlling either device. That's my opinion.

Originally Posted by honedright

I think you are presenting a false dichotomy.

Are either guns, or vehicles, the sole factors holding America together? I doubt it. So your question is misleading, but not rude.

The purpose of a vehicle, generally, is to transport someone, or something, from point A to point B.

And the purpose of a gun is to ignite a measured charge and send a projectile rapidly down and out of a barrel.

How those objectives are carried out, and the resulting consequences of any abuse or misjudgement, is completely up to, and is the responsibility of, the person controlling either device. That's my opinion.

LOL - as my wife always says, "it's all about definition."

As a dude who study's business - I would argue that yes, the purpose of a vehicle is to "transport someone, or something, from point A to point B." And that it is one of the biggest factors that is "holding America together" considering how we value capitalism, trade, and commerce.

It's all about definition but yeah, I would say that were you to take away guns we would be ok - take away vehicles, your world would be rocked!

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I mean seriously? How would you get your food? Your electricity, your ammo?

Originally Posted by earcutter

LOL - as my wife always says, "it's all about definition."

As a dude who study's business - I would argue that yes, the purpose of a vehicle is to "transport someone, or something, from point A to point B." And that it is one of the biggest factors that is "holding America together" considering how we value capitalism, trade, and commerce.

It's all about definition but yeah, I would say that were you to take away guns we would be ok - take away vehicles, your world would be rocked!

Depends on your definition of "Ok" and whether or not OK is good enough. OK?

Originally Posted by honedright

Depends on your definition of "Ok" and whether or not OK is good enough.

Bahahahahaaha!

Ok but think of this - If America took away all vehicles and the rest of the world didn't... You will not be speaking english for long .

Originally Posted by earcutter

Bahahahahaaha!

Ok but think of this - If America took away all vehicles and the rest of the world didn't... You will not be speaking english for long .

That's only if you take away all of the guns too.

Originally Posted by honedright

That's only if you take away all of the guns too.

Yeah, horse-drawn artillery moves so fast to where it's needed.

Originally Posted by pixelfixed

20 dead young children,7 adults by a nutcase back east with a semi .223 today.
This country needs some manner of gun control.As a lifelong NRA Member,I am not continueing my membership as of today.
The 2nd ammendment advocates are a bunch of wacko nut cases IMO.
I just read this on the net and am actually brought to tears.
God has foresakin this once great country.Rant over

I should steer clear of this topic, BUT I just can't... This will probably be my only post so here it is...

25 years of being in LE/Security/Military and working overseas... It's not the guns, it's the PEOPLE!

"WE" as in society have allowed people to do as they wish without penalties and it has only gotten worse... Arm all law abiding people and see what happens next...

If one teacher, staff member or parent that was there was CCW what would have been the out come?

I shed a tear for the lost...

Originally Posted by honedright

That's only if you take away all of the guns too.

TAKE AWAY ALL THE GUNS TOO!!!



You couldn't get enough in your wheelbarrow to stop say... the Chinese lol!!

Originally Posted by proximus26

Difficult questions, but let`s just think about it.

Not difficult at all, not one bit...

No, I would not give up my rights, nor would I ever need to explain another "person's" actions, why would I...
(person is in quotes as anybody that would shoot innocent children/people is highly questionable as to belonging to the human race)

Nor do I believe that your questions have any bearing on the topic...

Originally Posted by gssixgun

Here is another simple solution that hardly ever gets air play, that I as a RKBA supporter would have Zero issues with..

1. Any Gun not in possesion of the owner must be locked up ie: some sort of Safe/Cabinet would be a law (these must be made in the US )
2. A "Gun Owner" license, much the same as a drivers license in fact might just be a Stamp on the drivers license like a MC stamp. that is a MINOR cost (monies go to School security) that says I can own a gun legally ie: answer all the BATF form questions... this must be re-newed periodically much like a driver's license.. This would also tie in with Health Care records to stop the "Mental Disorder" problems that seems to be a bigger issue then the weapons right now.
3. You must have had some sort of Firearm safety course, we already do this for hunters (in most states) so it is no big deal.

Simple easy solutions to many problems

Yea, that is all part of our current gun laws but it does not stop what happens here in major centers. As a gun owner I too don't mind putting up with that but in the end there will always be criminal use of guns. Same reason as bans won't work either. The same knuckleheads here don't understand that either. We have a sick society.

Bob