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    Ok - but answer this - was that not happening before? I never did get that.
    I mean why would he need a mark if his was the only family?
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    Someone sent me this in my email. I knew about Germany, but wasn't aware of all the other statistics.

    I read about using off duty police, That's a good idea. Most off duty cops here, are used to watch road construction workers. Put them in the schools.




    A LITTLE GUN HISTORY

    In 1929, the Soviet Union established gun control. >From 1929 to 1953, about 20 million dissidents, unable to defend themselves, were rounded up and exterminated
    In 1911, Turkey established gun control. From 1915 to 1917, 1.5 million Armenians, unable to defend themselves, were rounded up and exterminated.
    Germany established gun control in 1938 and from 1939 to 1945, a total of 13 million Jews and others who were unable to defend themselves were rounded up and exterminated.
    China established gun control in 1935. From 1948 to 1952, 20 million political dissidents, unable to defend themselves were rounded up and exterminated
    Guatemala established gun control in 1964. From 1964 to 1981, 100,000 Mayan Indians, unable to defend themselves, were rounded up and exterminated.
    Uganda established gun control in 1970. From 1971 to 1979, 300,000 Christians, unable to defend themselves, were rounded up and exterminated.
    Cambodia established gun control in 1956. From 1975 to 1977, one million educated people, unable to defend themselves, were rounded up and exterminated.
    Defenseless people rounded up and exterminated in the 20th Century because of gun control: 56 million.
    You won't see this data on the US evening news, or hear politicians disseminating this information.
    Guns in the hands of honest citizens save lives and property and, yes, gun-control laws adversely affect only the law-abiding citizens.

    Take note my fellow Americans, before it's too late!
    The next time someone talks in favor of gun control, please remind them of this history lesson.
    With guns, we are 'citizens'. Without them, we are 'subjects'.
    During WWII the Japanese decided not to invade America because they knew most Americans were ARMED!
    If you value your freedom, please spread this antigun-control message to all of your friends.
    SWITZERLAND ISSUES EVERY HOUSEHOLD A GUN!
    SWITZERLAND'S GOVERNMENT TRAINS EVERY ADULT THEY ISSUE A RIFLE.
    SWITZERLAND HAS THE LOWEST GUN RELATED CRIME RATE OF ANY CIVILIZED COUNTRY IN THE WORLD!!!
    IT'S A NO BRAINER!
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    Quote Originally Posted by zib View Post
    Someone sent me this in my email.




    A LITTLE GUN HISTORY

    In 1929, the Soviet Union established gun control. >From 1929 to 1953, about 20 million dissidents, unable to defend themselves, were rounded up and exterminated
    In 1911, Turkey established gun control. From 1915 to 1917, 1.5 million Armenians, unable to defend themselves, were rounded up and exterminated.
    Germany established gun control in 1938 and from 1939 to 1945, a total of 13 million Jews and others who were unable to defend themselves were rounded up and exterminated.
    China established gun control in 1935. From 1948 to 1952, 20 million political dissidents, unable to defend themselves were rounded up and exterminated
    Guatemala established gun control in 1964. From 1964 to 1981, 100,000 Mayan Indians, unable to defend themselves, were rounded up and exterminated.
    Uganda established gun control in 1970. From 1971 to 1979, 300,000 Christians, unable to defend themselves, were rounded up and exterminated.
    Cambodia established gun control in 1956. From 1975 to 1977, one million educated people, unable to defend themselves, were rounded up and exterminated.
    Defenseless people rounded up and exterminated in the 20th Century because of gun control: 56 million.
    You won't see this data on the US evening news, or hear politicians disseminating this information.
    Guns in the hands of honest citizens save lives and property and, yes, gun-control laws adversely affect only the law-abiding citizens.

    Take note my fellow Americans, before it's too late!
    The next time someone talks in favor of gun control, please remind them of this history lesson.
    With guns, we are 'citizens'. Without them, we are 'subjects'.
    During WWII the Japanese decided not to invade America because they knew most Americans were ARMED! NOT TRUE
    If you value your freedom, please spread this antigun-control message to all of your friends.
    SWITZERLAND ISSUES EVERY HOUSEHOLD A GUN!
    SWITZERLAND'S GOVERNMENT TRAINS EVERY ADULT THEY ISSUE A RIFLE.
    SWITZERLAND HAS THE LOWEST GUN RELATED CRIME RATE OF ANY CIVILIZED COUNTRY IN THE WORLD!!!
    IT'S A NO BRAINER! Switzerland doesn't issue handguns and state to carry.
    Dude if the US government wanted to round you up they would... just like they did to American Germans and Japanese in WW2. HA!!!

    I an not advocating to not allow the RIGHT to own in America but the above is silly IMO.
    David

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    Quote Originally Posted by earcutter View Post
    Dude if the US government wanted to round you up they would... just like they did to American Germans and Japanese in WW2. HA!!!

    I an not advocating to not allow the RIGHT to own in America but the above is silly IMO.
    Don't forget the WWI Vets that marched on DC for their Bonus that was promised. Look up the Bonus Army if you're not familiar with the story.
    Hoover, MacArthur, Eisenhower, and Patton. Some of the biggest names of that time period did such a disgraceful thing to the vets that were destitute after the stock crash.
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    Quote Originally Posted by earcutter View Post
    Dude if the US government wanted to round you up they would... just like they did to American Germans and Japanese in WW2. HA!!!

    I an not advocating to not allow the RIGHT to own in America but the above is silly IMO.


    Hmmmmm, I would have to disagree there, Way to many instances of Guerrilla warfare, stopping a much larger and better armed force, you don't even have to go back very far in history to prove that ...

    Secondly, I have serious doubts that very many American soldiers will ever fight on American soil, even if ordered to.

    Third, I agree it is a silly notion
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    Quote Originally Posted by scap99 View Post
    Don't forget the WWI Vets that marched on DC for their Bonus that was promised. Look up the Bonus Army if you're not familiar with the story.
    Hoover, MacArthur, Eisenhower, and Patton. Some of the biggest names of that time period did such a disgraceful thing to the vets that were destitute after the stock crash.
    The interesting point about that story - one I have been stating over and over, is that the army went at them with tanks. Whole lot of good a six gun and a M16 is going to for you in that case.

    What a disgrace .
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    Quote Originally Posted by gssixgun View Post
    Hmmmmm, I would have to disagree there, Way to many instances of Guerrilla warfare, stopping a much larger and better armed force, you don't even have to go back very far in history to prove that ...

    Secondly, I have serious doubts that very many American soldiers will ever fight on American soil, even if ordered to.

    Third, I agree it is a silly notion
    The Warsaw Ghetto uprising is an amazing story of bravery and determination.

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    Quote Originally Posted by earcutter View Post
    The interesting point about that story - one I have been stating over and over, is that the army went at them with tanks. Whole lot of good a six gun and a M16 is going to for you in that case.

    What a disgrace .
    Set fire to their shanty town too.
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    Quote Originally Posted by gssixgun View Post
    Hmmmmm, I would have to disagree there, Way to many instances of Guerrilla warfare, stopping a much larger and better armed force, you don't even have to go back very far in history to prove that ...

    Secondly, I have serious doubts that very many American soldiers will ever fight on American soil, even if ordered to.

    Third, I agree it is a silly notion
    Yeah but the problem with that Glen, is in those story's people were trying to be gentle to the public. It's kind of dumb in my opinion but that's a whole different debate. Name any time in history when a government went after their own people and didn't off the public. You see what I am saying?

    A gorilla force might be able to hold off Russia and America - but only because we don't fight wars of attrition anymore. Or because America or Russia was backing the gorilla's. If we went back to "kill them all and let god sort it out," no war fought by America would ever be lost.

    If America ever imploded - many citizens would be killed - very possibly because they were shooting at the army. Who knows.
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    Quote Originally Posted by scap99 View Post
    Don't forget the WWI Vets that marched on DC for their Bonus that was promised. Look up the Bonus Army if you're not familiar with the story.
    Hoover, MacArthur, Eisenhower, and Patton. Some of the biggest names of that time period did such a disgraceful thing to the vets that were destitute after the stock crash.
    I wonder if they all marched to the White House armed if they wouldn't have been viewed as an invading force and gunned down. Seriously. Pretty easy to spin that... man what a sad story.
    David

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