Thread: In the Garden 2016

In that new section we are going with 2 rows of corn 2 rows of her Pumpkins and 2 rows of the Walla Walla Sweets from Roy total experiment over there...


The actual garden in fully tilled now, figures I broke a Tiller wheel yesterday so of course I had to find a new one that fit, lucked out and found some with steel hubs so it was smooth sailing for the final run today...

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Ready to get every thing planted, as soon as it warms up a bit more and I get the fences up, now comes the waiting/timing game..[/QUOTE]

SO corn is supposed to be planted in at least 4 rows as it is necessary for proper pollination. 2 rows& reduced growing season not the best situation. Search for shorter growing season plant to full grown corn.
In fact have you googled what grows best at your elevation and short season. Equalizer if a greenhouse/ East window with lots of sun, plus a couple of replanting into larger pots till they can go out to the garden. Break them in with the pots and outside, inside the pots for at night till plants get hardy. Then into the garden.
Your Bark Idea, what do you believe the wood chips will do for you?? Compost, ashes, and plain leaves as a ground cover inhibits weeds and increased moisture content for your soil. Rotting chips can be overkill. Retain what works from last year. Rototilling in the fall is still advised to aerate the soil and incorporate all the natural nutrients that you put in the garden which are decomposing. Wood chips with your current set up will not offer significant increase in produce yields.
Family across this country already have 4 inch high tomatoes and are ready to repot to jump start them more. Tomatoes in Florida can be difficult because it gets too hot and limestone and sand not so good. So if they can plant 12inch plants by may 15th. they reap before the dog days of summer. Point is you need to adjust to your soil , environment and seed growth for region.

Originally Posted by gssixgun

Funny you mention this

Actually overheard this while listening to a discussion in the Hardware aisle of the CoOp about "Shear Bolts for a 3pt Snow Blower"

Customer: I need shear bolts for my snowblower

Clerk: Well most of them are Grade 2 do you know what size ???

Customer: well they were 1/4" but they keep breaking in the heavy snow, so I want to upgrade them to either a Harder bolt or maybe I can drill the hole out to fit a 5/16"


I looked at the Clerk smiled and walked away ***SMH***

We ask for the harden bolts and pins. Same ones they use for the roadsigns, Stopsigns ect. they have a higher tensal strength but are break/bendable depending on how hard you push them. Buy 5 saves a trip to town.

Originally Posted by gssixgun

Well we did it now

The wife and I got in 1 row of her Pumpkins, 2 rows of the Corn and she decided that we should try the Radishes and some Beets over in the new plot ..

This should be interesting because it is a total experiment,, dropping seeds and covering them up, awesome concept

I am really hoping that the Corn takes

Found out there is some serious water going through the SE corner, was trying to clear a path fully around the outside of the plowed area and found some MUD, deep mud, about 2 feet down...

Permafrost?? Could you dig past it? Amount of sun that area receives changes the thaw rate. Best place to plant medical marijuana is always the SE end of the garden.First light and all day southern exposure results in large productive outcomes Gets the most grow light. So said a botany book in college for guerrilla grows. This effects the soil and moisture content.

So I reached out to my sister In Wenatchee. She said short season. 120 days max for Glenns area.
You wouldnt bake a cake without mixing the ingredients. Mix soil with compost at least once a year to get good dirt.
Oh and pray, Something about being on the wrong side of the mountains they dont get much rain.
Glenn did you just double or triple the size of your garden, or is it camera angle?
Looks bigger than last year. Soil prep is like bevel set most of the work is done at the beginning.
Lastly have you seen products for your short season?
Short Season Vegetable Gardening - Growing Tips Article at Burpee.com

The burn pile is going to help quite a bit.
Keep up the good work.

Yes the garden size has doubled

But the new plot is closing in on 1/2 acre that is the real experiment... We haven't decided quite what to do there yet ..




(In this pic you can make out the actual garden about 150 yards away off the end of the shop)


The Corn is VERY short season

Both areas receive almost 100% of the available sunshine that we get..

The Wood Chip is from the BTE system or Back to Eden it seems to have quite a positive following, and is especially popular with the few people I know up here...

My dad had a unique way of planting corn. He planted 3-4 kernels in a 'hill' and the hills were about 18" apart.

The corn seed he used came from Green Giant, it's what they use for the Niblets canned corn. It doesn't have a name just a number. Unfortunately the company that owns G.G. (Seneca) closed the plant down in Buhl ID. At one time the local farmers grew 16000 acres of sweet corn, the last year only 5000 acres were grown.

Dad tried other varieties of corn but never found one that produced or tasted like the G.G. variety.

Here's a little bit from an article on Green Giant:
In the mid-twentieth century the company continued to innovate. In 1929, they invented a new process for canning vacuum-packed corn. Called Niblets, this brand would become the best-selling canned corn in the country in a few years. In 1934, the research and development team created the heat unit method, an equation that they claimed could predict a field's exact moment of ripeness. In 1961, the GGC began marketing frozen vegetables, including whole ears of corn under its Niblets brand.

https://www.minnpost.com/mnopedia/20...d-food-pioneer

Oh, while I now live 35 miles from were I grew up here's a little info about what used to be done in a town of less than 3000 people.

Jolly Green Giant Left Town, But His Image Remains . News | OPB

Sorry to get off topic

Sowed the cukes and radishes this morning.

3 hills of cukes with 6 seed per hill.
About 30 radish seed while leaving room for a second planting in two weeks.

Tomatoes and peppers are doing well under the grow light. They should be ready to plant in two or three weeks.

74 (23c) today. 48 (9c) tomorrow. One day we will start getting consistently warm weather. This has been a really sucky April.

Consistent weather in WI?

The trouble is after winter it is hard to have patience and wait......

This weekend I'm preparing the soil, have a good amount of compost to mix with garden soil. Typically I grow cherry tomatoes for kiddos, some cucs, zucs and carrots, spinach/kale.
Will keep you posted as the season progresses.
Cheers to you all!