Thread: What types of watches do you like?

Probably 90% of Swiss Made Watches under 3 grand have either an ETA 2824 or variant and those above 3 grand have the 2892. Some have the newer Valgranges. Most chronos have the 7750 or it's variants. A few have the 2894 Even though they come in grades and some outfits "customize" the mvmts they are still the same animal. You can get a Hamilton with a 2824 for $400 and pay 3 grand for another watch with the same basic mvmt with "modifications". The upgrades in the mvmt cost a few bucks but they charge hundreds if not thousands for them. You can buy (or could a few years ago) an Invicta dive watch Swiss made with the ETA 2892 and a COSC certified watch for $900 and this isn't your typical Invicta. The exact same quality in an IWC ot Omega and your looking at well over 3 grand. I find it amazing how these outfits get away with charging what they do for what you get. it shows you how gullible folks are. it's all in the name or maybe the "brand ambassador".

With the changes at ETA they are going to the Stelita mvmts which are basically clones of the ETA models. Many are going with Citizen and Seiko mvmts because they can't get the Swiss anymore. A few outfits are making their own mvmts. Rolex is a different case because they are the 600 lb Gorilla in the Swiss watch Industry. They are rich beyond all avarice and so have the bucks to do everything themselves though I think their prices are outrageous as is their service too.

My watchmaker will not even mess with an Omega chrono with a 7750,remove the hands and dial, put in a brand new pce of crap ETA 7750 that costs 150 bux,full of plastic parts,and walla you have a new $4000.00 Omega Chrono,$3500.00 of which is the name Omega.woohoo.

Originally Posted by pixelfixed

My watchmaker will not even mess with an Omega chrono with a 7750,remove the hands and dial, put in a brand new pce of crap ETA 7750 that costs 150 bux,full of plastic parts,and walla you have a new $4000.00 Omega Chrono,$3500.00 of which is the name Omega.woohoo.

Why is your watchmaker not so fond of it? Looks like quite a few watchmakers in various price classes are using the 7750, and according to these independent sites, it doesn't seem to be quite such a POS:

The Valjoux 7750 Chronograph - Part 1 - TimeZone
The Valjoux 7750 Engine

Originally Posted by thebigspendur

Probably 90% of Swiss Made Watches under 3 grand have either an ETA 2824 or variant and those above 3 grand have the 2892. Some have the newer Valgranges. Most chronos have the 7750 or it's variants. A few have the 2894 Even though they come in grades and some outfits "customize" the mvmts they are still the same animal. You can get a Hamilton with a 2824 for $400 and pay 3 grand for another watch with the same basic mvmt with "modifications". The upgrades in the mvmt cost a few bucks but they charge hundreds if not thousands for them. You can buy (or could a few years ago) an Invicta dive watch Swiss made with the ETA 2892 and a COSC certified watch for $900 and this isn't your typical Invicta. The exact same quality in an IWC ot Omega and your looking at well over 3 grand. I find it amazing how these outfits get away with charging what they do for what you get. it shows you how gullible folks are. it's all in the name or maybe the "brand ambassador".

With the changes at ETA they are going to the Stelita mvmts which are basically clones of the ETA models. Many are going with Citizen and Seiko mvmts because they can't get the Swiss anymore. A few outfits are making their own mvmts. Rolex is a different case because they are the 600 lb Gorilla in the Swiss watch Industry. They are rich beyond all avarice and so have the bucks to do everything themselves though I think their prices are outrageous as is their service too.

Interesting, thanks. Like I said earlier, I don't think it's all just a question of the movement, but I do see how prices are driven up by brand-name - in watches, cars, fashion, electronics and other areas.

Originally Posted by HamburgO

Why is your watchmaker not so fond of it? Looks like quite a few watchmakers in various price classes are using the 7750, and according to these independent sites, it doesn't seem to be quite such a POS:

The Valjoux 7750 Chronograph - Part 1 - TimeZone
The Valjoux 7750 Engine

The movement functions Fine,Is cheaper and faster to replace the entire movement than it is to repair it.
Now when you start talking chrono movements like the venerable Valjoux 72 crownwheels,thats a whole differant ballpark.

Originally Posted by Nightblade

Found this site here The Last Wind-Up :: New Wrist Watches . The Mallards and the Momentums seemed fairly affordable and sensible .

I just checked out the last windup webpage, and compared the prices that I paid for my ball watches to their prices, and brother. They are no bargain, especially the night train. Which I own.

Originally Posted by pixelfixed

My watchmaker will not even mess with an Omega chrono with a 7750,remove the hands and dial, put in a brand new pce of crap ETA 7750 that costs 150 bux,full of plastic parts,and walla you have a new $4000.00 Omega Chrono,$3500.00 of which is the name Omega.woohoo.

sorry, I'm calling bull shit on this, as I have many, many watches with the 7750 and 7751 and my watchmaker says the price of these movements has gone up like crazy about $6-$700 and I've had mine repaired once or twice already, but they very rarely break. As a matter of fact, if you do a little searching. There is a webpage devoted to selling nothing but watches driven by this engine. It is one of the best out there bar none. Also do a little more homework and you'll find out this movement started out in Rolexes to state the facts Jack.

Originally Posted by Grizzley1

sorry, I'm calling bull shit on this, as I have many, many watches with the 7750 and 7751 and my watchmaker says the price of these movements has gone up like crazy about $6-$700 and I've had mine repaired once or twice already, but they very rarely break. As a matter of fact, if you do a little searching. There is a webpage devoted to selling nothing but watches driven by this engine. It is one of the best out there bar none. Also do a little more homework and you'll find out this movement started out in Rolexes to state the facts Jack.

Name is Bill. not Jack,Rolex used the 7750? you have not a clue about what you are saying.

Originally Posted by Grizzley1

I just checked out the last windup webpage, and compared the prices that I paid for my ball watches to their prices, and brother. They are no bargain, especially the night train. Which I own.

Thanks for the heads up Grizz...Honestly I don't know a whole lot about watches. I have a crappy ol modern Timex heh. I remember when Timex was supposed to take a licking and keep on ticking . Well....it ticks anyway. Oh for the days when a fella could go in to the store,plop down 50-100 bucks and get a decent wind up watch...why live anymore..sheesh !

Is it bad that 90% of the time I have either a G-shock or an Orient Mako on my wrist? Both cost under $100. Both are have managed to survive swimming, scuba, skiing, mountain biking, shooting, fly fishing, and my kids. I've got a couple of Vostok watches but I want to sell the Komanderskie and get my Amphibia relumed and have new seals put on.