Thread: My Friodur has been Violated!

Curiosity is one thing, but to snoop around? A forgivable mistake would be like cleaning something improperly. If he had no business in the drawer, he had no business in the drawer. Like everyone else said, it begs the question of what else has he been poking through?

Well, the weekend away did wonders for my clarity on this issue. I spent a bit of time thinking about it - not too much, I was trying to enjoy a small break. I decided that if he admitted it I would give a "nice" reason to his company as to why I fired him, and just have a chat with him about personal property in the hope that he's limited his actions to me and not his other clients. We're only a small client, so financially we're a minimal loss.

So thanks guys for all your thoughts on this. Keeping things in perspective was a bit of an issue for me (as the title of the thread suggests) - in the end it isn't about razors and strops, but trust.

Hopefully I'll hear from him today and won't have to chase him down.

James.

Originally Posted by scarface

Well, Good Grief!..I’m a little late to this party, but I pretty much agree with most of the other guys….unless you REALLY trust this guy in your house while you’re gone….I mean, who knows?...when he’s in there all alone, he could be rumaging through your underwear drawer, and prancing about the living room with your underwear on his head and using your socks for gloves and clunking around the house with his bare feet in your custom imported Italian calfskin loafers and getting all hot and sweaty while he was wearing that new Thai Silk shirt that your wife got you for your birthday….hell, he could even be taking off all of his clothes and rolling around in your bed between the sheets and doing who knows what all!!!! If he was REALLY twisted, he might even go into your kitchen and get into your silverware drawer and lick all the forks and spoons and get into the refrigerator and touch all of the ice cubes and drink out of the milk bottle.

I mean, really, there’s just no end to what a twisted, perverted mind can come up with!

Have a nice day!


-whatever

-Lou

DUDE!!! You're painting a picture I just don't want to look at!

Originally Posted by Greg Frazer

Really great post !

Like Scarface (Germany)... I am sure there was no malice intended...

Most people who see my razors (anyones razors, i guess) immediately want to touch them... they are a fascinating object, particularly for men. I would think the temptation to look and touch would be overwhelming.

I imagine he's had a chop at stropping the razor, just to see what it's like, and it hasn't worked out too well... the fact that it was the most expensive razor in your drawer is truly unfortunate (i feel you pain) but probably the most likely outcome... it no doubt stands out among the others and would be the first one anyone would pick up to have a look at.

Others have raised the issue of trust and their comments are well valid, but personally I lean toward this being at the lesser serious end of the scale as far as violations go.

Going from clumbsily man-handling your razors to shaving his jatz-crackers while whistling show tunes is a stretch too far for me... mind you, I'm just a simple country mouse.

The weekend to calm down may alter your posture... i dunno

Greg Frazer

Perhaps no malice was intended but this guy wouldn't have happened across the razor and damaged it (allegedly) had he not already been snooping around in places where he had no business being. Years ago I experienced a violation considerably worse and so I have very little sympathy for snoops. If you don't have solid proof then don't make angry accusations but don't be a fool and allow him continued access to your home.

And I would consider changing the locks on all the doors if I were you!

I'm not kidding!

Originally Posted by Jimbo

Well, the weekend away did wonders for my clarity on this issue. I spent a bit of time thinking about it - not too much, I was trying to enjoy a small break. I decided that if he admitted it I would give a "nice" reason to his company as to why I fired him, and just have a chat with him about personal property in the hope that he's limited his actions to me and not his other clients. We're only a small client, so financially we're a minimal loss.

So thanks guys for all your thoughts on this. Keeping things in perspective was a bit of an issue for me (as the title of the thread suggests) - in the end it isn't about razors and strops, but trust.

Hopefully I'll hear from him today and won't have to chase him down.

James.

Well, there you go....a well thought out and measured response....in spite of some of the rather....u-m-m-m-m.....radical....advice you were given.....

Well done, James....call it a learning experience and move onward!

-whatever

-Lou

(.....I'd STILL wash all the silverware....but, hey!....that's just me!...)

Originally Posted by Agamemnon

Perhaps no malice was intended but this guy wouldn't have happened across the razor and damaged it (allegedly) had he not already been snooping around in places where he had no business being. Years ago I experienced a violation considerably worse and so I have very little sympathy for snoops. If you don't have solid proof then don't make angry accusations but don't be a fool and allow him continued access to your home.

I agree with you Agamemnon.... and you were right to emphasise the word (allegedly)

When I read Jimbo's first post I felt that he was relating what HAD happened and making a not unreasonable summation about how it MIGHT have happened... I have no other information about the events that took place.

My response was intended to add some balance to the assertions that this individual was somewhere between a poor hump-backed creature that lurks through people belongings when they're out to a raving lunatic that dresses in womens clothes, if wearing clothes at all, and pleasures himself in other peoples beds... all of which still seem like too great an assumption to make.

It may sound like I'm suggesting Jimbo was wrong to be upset or that he was being un-reasonable... and, of course, Im not... we've all had back and forth with Jimbo in these forums and he has always struck me as an evenly tempered and very reasonable individual. Property of his had been damaged and he was within his rights to be bent out of shape about it.

You mentioned experiencing violations much worse than this... and so have I... which, naturally effects a persons perspective. If it appeared that I was making light of Jimbo's predicament then I certainly was not... I just tend to measure my own reaction to these things against the events of my past experience... a hasty over-reaction can quickly make YOU the guilty party and being hammered for wrongful termination, defamation, liable... can altogether become an expensive experience.

I agree with you about not making angry accusations before having proof but i would take that a step further and advocate not making angry accusations at all... even in the presence of overwhelming proof... an accusation can quickly become a threat... anything you do say can and will be used against you etc etc

As to digging through drawers looking for valuables... i really don't know that this is what he was doing... it sounds like he has been in Jimbo's house before without incident... so I really dont know why this time was different.

Was he ratting through every drawer in the house or was he cleaning the bathroom and found something on the bench-top that would typically be kept in a drawer? I really don't know... it could be either... if you chose to believe the former case then so it shall be...

A man, much wiser than me, often says... "don't believe everything you think"

At the end of the day, we're not talking about an employee in an office or a workshop, we're talking about a employee in someones home, so the rules are slightly different, i guess. If you no longer feel comfortable with someone being in your home that should be reason enough to exclude them from it...

Whatever course of action Jimbo takes is entirely up to him... i have not suggested one response or another... what i have suggested though is that any response needs to be measured and reasonable with consideration for the facts rather than our assuptions

Greg Frazer

Greg - I didn't get the feeling from your previous post that you were suggesting I was wrong to be upset - not at all. I've appreciated all the advice given by people on this, radical or otherwise. Believe it or not, it helped enormously. Thank you all again.

Still no closure though, unfortunately - keep getting the answering service. I might have to precipitate a call back by letting him go first (not my prefered option).

James.

Originally Posted by Jimbo

Greg - I didn't get the feeling from your previous post that you were suggesting I was wrong to be upset - not at all. I've appreciated all the advice given by people on this, radical or otherwise. Believe it or not, it helped enormously. Thank you all again.

Still no closure though, unfortunately - keep getting the answering service. I might have to precipitate a call back by letting him go first (not my prefered option).

James.

well If you know the exact day he is coming in, have a sick day and confront in person. Maybe with the beauty of a collection sitting open at arms' reach for defense...

Kidding for that last part for a defense.