Thread: Stainless steel razors on Shapton Pros.

I guess it depends on when those razors left the factory and where you got it. Mine probably left the factory ~2 years ago and sold online, I would assume they were the worst.

Originally Posted by stoneandstrop

I have the same one as well still. The first razor I purchased new when I started so over 20 years ago now.
It honed super easy without any issues in geometry and remains a very good razor.
The steel is not really hard but it still holds an edge as well as any vintage razor.

You got it over 20 years ago, I guess that's probably why.

Originally Posted by sharptonn

Talking about cruddy stainless and going off-topic to Dovo, a question comes to mind.

Known fact that Dovo made razors for Hess Hair Milk.

Why is it that a Hess 44 is widely regarded as one of the first and best of Inox razors.

Dovo made some almost identical ones. Hard to see. I guess back in the day, deals were deals. Seems Hess specified and knew their stuff. Lots of razors come to mind
All Hess razors made in Germany by Dovo seem to be great.
44's are the longest lasting edges, IMO.

I guess the answer is straightforward: Hess cares about it brand and thus has higher bars for the product with its label on; Dovo takes short term profit over its brand and thus sells whatever left the pipeline with little maybe even no QA at all.

If u seen how they produce a factory edge at Dovo, you'd understand why they come with frowns most of the time.

Originally Posted by sharptonn

Talking about cruddy stainless and going off-topic to Dovo, a question comes to mind.

Known fact that Dovo made razors for Hess Hair Milk.

Why is it that a Hess 44 is widely regarded as one of the first and best of Inox razors.

Dovo made some almost identical ones. Hard to see. I guess back in the day, deals were deals. Seems Hess specified and knew their stuff. Lots of razors come to mind
All Hess razors made in Germany by Dovo seem to be great.
44's are the longest lasting edges, IMO.

Vintage Kenmore and Craftsman products come to mind. Sears & Roebuck must have had a lot of pull because the products sold under those names were better than the original maker's name brand products. That was true until relatively recently. Then they began to suck.

I'm not really sure how old that Col. Conk of mine is. It was brand new (NOS really i guess) when I got it as a gift from my family doctor. He bought it while on vacation in Germany and never used it. It had been years and years, I just don't know how many. My guess is at least 10 and maybe 20.

If that razor has an HRC of approx 70 ( which is highly doubtful) then it will most certainly be brittle and very prone to microchips.
There is a reason that most razors are in the HRC range of 58-60. That range produces stable edges on the steel.

Just my 2¢

Originally Posted by randydance062449

If that razor has an HRC of approx 70 ( which is highly doubtful) then it will most certainly be brittle and very prone to microchips.
There is a reason that most razors are in the HRC range of 58-60. That range produces stable edges on the steel.

Just my 2¢

Gotta agree with my friend Randy

We all had to go through TI's idea to take their CarbonSong up to 66rhc,,, that didn't last long before they backed it down

Originally Posted by gssixgun

Yeah your not going to find one in a store
No your Dovo and Boker are not nearly as good off a 30k as the fine grained steel found in Vintage NY razors

Look for brands like

Kinfolks
Cattaraugus
Thistle
Olean
Genco / Geneva

Look for the NY stamps, this isn't hard and they are often quite cheap on the used markets

Not sure where you got the idea of 5-7 strokes on a 30K besides on my vids, keep in mind that is after a proper set up on the full grit ladder

YUou mighty also try what we call a Micro-Bevel after the 15 or 16k

Let's not forget George W. Korn (Little Valley) KaBar (Olean) and Robeson (Rochester) all cut from the same cloth as those listed above and all fantastic hard carbon steel; some of the best EVER for razors in my opinion.

It also bears saying that not only was.the steel of top quality in these maker's razors but so was.the craftsmanship. This was a golden age and golden place for cutlery.

I feel the Clauss razors out of Ohio, the same