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02-17-2012, 03:24 AM #11
Eric, you are a sick man. LOL
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02-17-2012, 03:37 AM #12
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02-17-2012, 04:54 AM #13
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02-17-2012, 01:04 PM #14
You should also search the internet for images of whet and dry BS. So far I've found only pictures of fish and birds, a disappointment . Now, for the Welsh thuringian, could they just be the finer grade of yellow lake stones? This seller was selling hones called thuringians, but they were actually the bohemian slate (that's what the people who tested them told me, that it's the same stone). This Welsh Thuringian, if it's a different kind, it must be known there. I don't think it's a newly surfaced hone. Especially in UK. A few members from there should know something about it and its real name.
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02-17-2012, 02:03 PM #15
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Thanked: 3164The seller says that he obtained the first lot of 'thuringian' stones from a central european source - where they were 'probably used to sharpen medical equipment.'
As for the 'welsh thuringian' there is the possibility that it was mined before. There is a natural stone called a 'silkstone' that was once marketed (well into the 1960s I believe) with 'A Cambrock Product' or something similar on the box. A telephone call to Companies House in the UK verified that there was never a company called 'Cambrock' registered with them, so it evidently referred to the product. 'Cambrian' means from or related to Wales, so Cambrock could simply be a combination of CAMBrian and ROCK. What has this got to do with a welsh thuringian? Well, the silkstone is very much like a thuringian - it looks like one, it is the same type of slate honestone and it performs just like one - not like the best of the select thuringians, but extremely good nevertheless. They perform much better than the grey Yellow Lake stones (I have a friend who has researched them in depth and has pin-pointed four different types all called Yellow Lake Oilstone). To my knowledge, no-one has ever pinpointed where in the British Isles the Silkstone came from, but from the 'Cambrock' name I am inclined to believe it came from Wales.
What I have never come across is an old reference to a Welsh Thuringian - that name seems to be newly coined.
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NeilLast edited by Neil Miller; 02-17-2012 at 02:05 PM.
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02-17-2012, 02:39 PM #16
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Thanked: 4249Well Neil,
I have a Yellow Lake Oilstone, and its nowhere close to a thuringian and its not grey mostly black, from england in the box.
Nevertheless for me its a wonderful pre finisher and im sure as we all know its highly possible that some yellow lake are finer
then others, perhaps he found an excellent batch!!
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02-17-2012, 02:44 PM #17
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Thanked: 3164Martin - Yellow Lake Oilstone was just a name, not a type of hone. As I said above, my friend has four distinct types of hone, all different, sold under the Yellow Lake brand. Of course they varied in finishing characteristics. What I said was the silkstone performed '...much better than the grey Yellow Lake Oilstone..." meaning that the silkstone was a better finisher - I wasn't advocating the Yellow Lake hones, but talking about something else completely! You have got hold of the wrong end of the stick, somehow...
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02-17-2012, 02:49 PM #18
Now now, if word gets out that this stone has anything to do with the silkstone, the price from 40GBP will go 100GBP and possibly higher. Even if it doesn't have anything to do with the silkstone.
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02-17-2012, 06:31 PM #19
In all fairness to the seller, I think he means it's a welsh slate comparable to the thuringian. A lot of people don't like to hear the word slate when talking about a stone because it sounds like a dirty gritty word but some slates make magnificent whetstones.
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02-17-2012, 07:18 PM #20
I'm now waiting for the Pakistani Sheffield razors, because you know quarter hollow grind is just not sexy enough.