Thread: Confirm Hone ID Please

The wrapper specifically mentions razors (rasoirs) and razor blades (lames des rasoirs) - a 'lame' being a DE razor blade. It looks like VMA made razor blades, too:



Regards,
Neil

Originally Posted by Neil Miller

The wrapper specifically mentions razors (rasoirs) and razor blades (lames des rasoirs) - a 'lame' being a DE razor blade. It looks like VMA made razor blades, too:



Regards,
Neil

Thats whats on the others side of the box "Demand from your supplier the razor blade VMA extra"
V.M.A. also made de razors

But apparently not french but German, that might be a good thing for Frameback stone!

Originally Posted by Martin103

V.M.A. also made de razors. But apparently not french but German, that might be a good thing for Frameback stone!

That's a risky assumption: basing the origin of the company on the steel used. Doesn't work with straight razors and I'm pretty sure it doesn't with DE razors either. From what I can gather, DEs use Swedish or German steel (which amounts to the same sthing as the import of Swedish iron ore into Solingen was extremely high - as it was in Sheffield). Note the Cabiri wrapper - Swedish steel, but made in Solingen. A similar occurrence may be seen in British Kropp razors made from Sheffield Steel (which was made with imported Swedish iron ore) that bore the legend 'ground in Germany' - three nationalities in one, British, product. (NB Kropps bore different tang-stamps at different times: "forged and ground in Sheffield", "forged and Ground in Germany/Hamburg", "forged in Sheffield and real hollow ground in Germany/Hamburg").





The blades may well have been imported - eg the Henckels blade, but this is clearly marked as an import - but other french blades (there are literally hundreds of makes) bear the signs of french steel-making centres like Nogent and Thiers.

Lacking any concrete proof to the contrary I don't think it's safe to say VMA was a german company.

Regards,
Neil

Originally Posted by Neil Miller

That's a risky assumption: basing the origin of the steel used. Doesn't work with straight razors and I'm pretty sure it doesn't with DE razors either. From what I can gather, DEs use Swedish or German steel (which amounts to the same sthing as the import of Swedish iron ore into Solingen was extremely high - as it was in Sheffield). Note the Cabiri wrapper - Swedish steel, but made in Solingen. A similar occurrence may be seen in British Kropp razors made from Sheffield Steel (which was made with imported Swedish iron ore) that bore the legend 'ground in Germany' - three nationalities in one, British, product. (NB Kropps bore different tang-stamps at different times: "forged and ground in Sheffield", "forged and Ground in Germany/Hamburg", "forged in Sheffield and real hollow ground in Germany/Hamburg").






Lacking any concrete proof to the contrary I don't think it's safe to say VMA was a german company.

Regards,
Neil

If VMA used German steel for their blades it is highly possible they used german stone as well.

That's quite possible, Martin. But unless we find hard evidence we can only surmise - and we all know what a twisting, winding, unsatisfactory road that is.

Regards,
Neil

Hi. I got the hone today.
It is man made but i have no clue of what.i havent seen a hone like this before.


I lapped it with 1000 grit wet sandpapper. Went As fast As a thüringer and slurried the same.

The smell is very unique. It smells natural but not as other Stones or mud. More like petrified wood??

I tested it quckly. Its slower then normal barber hones from US. It is also extremely fine. Then i rehoned a razor on a Schwedenstein and finished with a few laps on this hone. Got a sharpness that i feel is sharper then when finish from 0.5 micron Diamond paste.

What is this hone? You can feel the unique smell even when using it.

V.m.a. Is somehow embossed on one of the short sides.

I have a coti and a Thuri that each smell very sweet when wet, stronger when slurried.

This is no sweet smell.
And its man made but maybe from some natural stuff all along (powder)

Hi all

I Got this locally from Sweden
Its a bit bigger then 5x1.
When dry looks greish. When wet very greenish.
The beautifull structure is Always there



What is it??

Frameback, how hard is this stone? color os slurry? how about a pic, close up of the broken end?