Thread: French Hones

Originally Posted by Thaeris

I used the "f" because the exact form of the antic "s" in the middle of words is no longer available.

On the other hand, you can see that the "s" placed at the end of words is of normal form.

By the way it is not the letter F, its called a long S, it is not only from old french writtings but also english, Italian, spanish and more.
If you look it up every language has a set of rules about the uses of the long S. For example im posting 2 images of the rules for the Long S in french and in English.


I don't know however if there were a difference of pronunciation, still it is an interesting clue to help with the datation of vintage french documents.[/QUOTE]

Has anybody seen a complete label similar to this one? It’s a hard fine natural stone. Possibly French.
Mike





saw cuts too..

Got another nice Lorraine Rouge Stone today!! It was sold in nearly the same wooden box as the Thuringian Stone i got sometime in the past....

It has the same cutted corners as this thuringian stone...I think its possible that these were sold from the same Company, though these stones do not own any label...

Originally Posted by hatzicho

Purchased some French hones a while ago.

One is a purple stone with a beautiful structure mounted in a wooden box.

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The label says “Pierre de Lorraine Rouge”. I have read somewhere in the forum that there is a coticule layer named Lorraine, but I am unsure if this is a coticule. It has purple slurry and is a fine stone.

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Would greatly appreciate any opinion and suggestions on the stones!

Dont know if it was already written down, after checking several documents, the shortcut (M.P.O.P.) = Meules, Pierres, Outillage, Produits, is another one from Ghelfi, Birroleau & Cie (FGBC)....seems that these are older Stones which were sold unter the Company Name before as D. Giovannacci, L. & B. Ghelfi, the document is from 1935. It says Établissement Belle, Veuve Valentin Ghelfi, Propriétaire

Most of the documents from the "La Lune" stones are of newer age, the Priclist "Ferdi" found was from 1974 also there was a invoice from 1952.

Two other shots for documenting purposes!!

in the beginning of my research back about a good year i often saw these "Special Stones for Good Razors" with the Manufrance label...which also brought up the idea to ask directly at Manufrance in concerns of the origin of the stones. This was also the time where the abbreviation FGBC was not known...

This is not my stone but it was Sold NOS in France, probably any one bought it here...so i am going to post the sellers shot with the Original Instructions which seems to have been delivered with the special stones to a certain time





I can read most of the text but i shurely appreciate if anybody could translate it here....

hi doorsch
* I have this document just the name of the stone that changes
I can you scan it and e-mailed to you if you want
I saw this stone but it is an oil stone

Originally Posted by antoine46

hi doorsch
* I have this document just the name of the stone that changes
I can you scan it and e-mailed to you if you want
I saw this stone but it is an oil stone

Shure Antoine i would appreciate a scan of the document, thanks!!

Yes the Special Stones are meant to be used with oil....

precisely on those I have
all was not oiled
the only one that is oiled is red
send me your email

Sebastian, it's not a perfect translation but it says:

Warranty bulletin

The natural oil razor hone "La Lune" can't be compared to any other.

Its grain fineness, its mineralogical purity allow for a rational and perfect honing WITHOUT ANY DAMAGE FOR THE STEEL.

A rigorous selection of the raw material, originating from the best quarries, a specialized workforce, using millenia-old processes make this hone the UNCONTESTED LEADING BRAND in the WORLD MARKET.

Originally Posted by MichaelP

Sebastian, it's not a perfect translation but it says:

Warranty bulletin

The natural oil razor hone "La Lune" can't be compared to any other.

Its grain fineness, its mineralogical purity allow for a rational and perfect honing WITHOUT ANY DAMAGE FOR THE STEEL.

A rigorous selection of the raw material, originating from the best quarries, a specialized workforce, using millenia-old processes make this hone the UNCONTESTED LEADING BRAND in the WORLD MARKET.

Thanks Michael for your fast translation!!