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09-04-2017, 01:35 PM #1911
A low grit natural used to reshape and refine bevel. Mike
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09-04-2017, 01:40 PM #1912
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Thanked: 458100% agree. I bevel set with one, then use another one that's not been lapped to follow up and then right to jnats or a trans or black ark.
I never get strange behavior with the edge when I bevel set with a washita. I've had a couple of old timers (cabinetmakers and carvers) tell me that washitas make a stronger edge than synthetics, and I think the translation of that is that some marginal steels are more tolerant of the shallow grooves that they make. I thought that was fishy talk when I first started, but it does seem to be the case with razors (I suppose just as some razors that microchip will sharpen well on coticules or other gentle naturals, but not synthetics).
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09-04-2017, 02:06 PM #1913
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09-04-2017, 02:21 PM #1914
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09-04-2017, 02:31 PM #1915
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Thanked: 458It's more a condition of the stone than it is the lube. If you scuff one up with a diamond hone, it will cut fast. If you don't, it will cut slowly and do more burnish than cut (but never super fine level).
Plus, they are very sensitive to pressure, so once they are fine cutting from lack of lapping, you can still apply a little pressure to get some cut out of them, or apply very little and get a very near finished edge (actually, once settled in, you can shave off of them relatively comfortably, but it's still easier to get final finish from a finish stone).
Lube has more to do with how the stone loads. With water, the stone will load faster. With a heavier oil, the particles will stay floated out of the pores a little better and the stone will stay cleaner (heavier being something like a medium mineral oil or light mineral oil - unscented baby oil is a decent choice). Lube would've been a bigger deal in the past when it wasn't as convenient to lap a stone to restore its cutting power.
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nicknbleeding (09-05-2017)
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09-04-2017, 02:50 PM #1916
Oil or slurry works at 1-2 K, then water for 5-6, pure glycerin bumps it to around 8K. Just a guess, but that's how it looks in a loupe. But the right amount of pressure , or lack of is needed for that,
and a lot more time. That's why I go back to the synthetics and Nats to finish.
It works, but my hands can't put up with that much, anymore. But I'll do it on times when they aren't giving me any trouble. I'm not that old, but my body is. Degeneration of the cervix scews with the C6 & C7. That's where the nerves come out that control muscles, and sense of touch, or feel. The tip of my right index finger is numb, all the time, and my arm will lock up in certain positions ( like a cramp or charlie horse ). Sometimes turning a screw driver will send pain into my hand, the likes of hitting yourself with a large hammer. So I make the best out of the good days.
Then there's the spinal stenosis.
That's another story.
Getting old...golden years...!!
Bah.. Someone lied.[emoji31]Mike
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nicknbleeding (09-05-2017)
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09-05-2017, 12:42 AM #1917
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Thanked: 133Touch ups on the puma. Henckles didn't reach that edge so I went to mejiro and then tomo maybe that will do the trick.
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09-08-2017, 08:47 AM #1918
Here's a couple I finished earlier in the week using 1k-10k chosera & finishing with my Nakayama Kiita. I used a DMT Mini Plate Fine slurry stone to make my slurry.
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09-08-2017, 09:41 AM #1919
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09-08-2017, 12:13 PM #1920
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