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    A low grit natural used to reshape and refine bevel. Mike

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    Quote Originally Posted by outback View Post
    I feel the Washita gives me a stronger edge, over the synthetics of that grit.
    100% agree. I bevel set with one, then use another one that's not been lapped to follow up and then right to jnats or a trans or black ark.

    I never get strange behavior with the edge when I bevel set with a washita. I've had a couple of old timers (cabinetmakers and carvers) tell me that washitas make a stronger edge than synthetics, and I think the translation of that is that some marginal steels are more tolerant of the shallow grooves that they make. I thought that was fishy talk when I first started, but it does seem to be the case with razors (I suppose just as some razors that microchip will sharpen well on coticules or other gentle naturals, but not synthetics).

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    Quote Originally Posted by DaveW View Post
    100% agree. I bevel set with one, then use another one that's not been lapped to follow up and then right to jnats or a trans or black ark.

    I never get strange behavior with the edge when I bevel set with a washita. I've had a couple of old timers (cabinetmakers and carvers) tell me that washitas make a stronger edge than synthetics, and I think the translation of that is that some marginal steels are more tolerant of the shallow grooves that they make. I thought that was fishy talk when I first started, but it does seem to be the case with razors (I suppose just as some razors that microchip will sharpen well on coticules or other gentle naturals, but not synthetics).
    Exactly..!! It creeps up on the edge.
    And I love how the stria looks on the bevel... Tight and consistent, and no strays.
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    Quote Originally Posted by outback View Post
    Thank you. She's my ace of hearts, in any progression.
    By changing the lube ( oil, water, glycerin ) I can make it act as three different grit stones. Then you can also slurry it, for a bevel cutter. But its still quite slow, so I bevel set on the 1K Chosera, then the Washita W/ water.
    That puts me at 5-7K, then to 8&12 to polish it out, and either a Escher, or Thurigan for the icing on the cake.
    I feel the Washita gives me a stronger edge, over the synthetics of that grit.

    Maybe its just me, but I love this stone.
    Oh..! And what it does to a kitchen knife, is heavenly.
    Which lube creates which abrasives? I have a few washita and sounds like its worth a try.

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    It's more a condition of the stone than it is the lube. If you scuff one up with a diamond hone, it will cut fast. If you don't, it will cut slowly and do more burnish than cut (but never super fine level).

    Plus, they are very sensitive to pressure, so once they are fine cutting from lack of lapping, you can still apply a little pressure to get some cut out of them, or apply very little and get a very near finished edge (actually, once settled in, you can shave off of them relatively comfortably, but it's still easier to get final finish from a finish stone).

    Lube has more to do with how the stone loads. With water, the stone will load faster. With a heavier oil, the particles will stay floated out of the pores a little better and the stone will stay cleaner (heavier being something like a medium mineral oil or light mineral oil - unscented baby oil is a decent choice). Lube would've been a bigger deal in the past when it wasn't as convenient to lap a stone to restore its cutting power.

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    Quote Originally Posted by nicknbleeding View Post
    Which lube creates which abrasives? I have a few washita and sounds like its worth a try.

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    Oil or slurry works at 1-2 K, then water for 5-6, pure glycerin bumps it to around 8K. Just a guess, but that's how it looks in a loupe. But the right amount of pressure , or lack of is needed for that,
    and a lot more time. That's why I go back to the synthetics and Nats to finish.
    It works, but my hands can't put up with that much, anymore. But I'll do it on times when they aren't giving me any trouble. I'm not that old, but my body is. Degeneration of the cervix scews with the C6 & C7. That's where the nerves come out that control muscles, and sense of touch, or feel. The tip of my right index finger is numb, all the time, and my arm will lock up in certain positions ( like a cramp or charlie horse ). Sometimes turning a screw driver will send pain into my hand, the likes of hitting yourself with a large hammer. So I make the best out of the good days.
    Then there's the spinal stenosis.
    That's another story.
    Getting old...golden years...!!
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    Touch ups on the puma. Henckles didn't reach that edge so I went to mejiro and then tomo maybe that will do the trick.
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    Here's a couple I finished earlier in the week using 1k-10k chosera & finishing with my Nakayama Kiita. I used a DMT Mini Plate Fine slurry stone to make my slurry.

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    Quote Originally Posted by engine46 View Post
    Here's a couple I finished earlier in the week using 1k-10k chosera & finishing with my Nakayama Kitta. I used a DMT Mini Plate Fine slurry stone to make my slurry.

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    Wow, Steve that Kiita is a beast!

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    Quote Originally Posted by engine46 View Post
    Here's a couple I finished earlier in the week using 1k-10k chosera & finishing with my Nakayama Kitta. I used a DMT Mini Plate Fine slurry stone to make my slurry.

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    I love the kiitas....but I sure do hate paying for them!
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