Thread: I'm not sure what to say about this.

Originally Posted by regularjoe

How did this thread go on for 20 some pages, get closed, then get re-opened with a link to the original video that started the first 22 pages of yacking, all over again?

We merged this new thread with the old thread. That is better than having several threads rehashing the entire discussion.

Originally Posted by Bruno

cultural assumptions

I personally find it painful to read this kind of thing, with old occident-orient dichotomies and stereotypes substituting for cultural knowledge. I find the same kind of talk among self-styled "expatriates" in most of East Asia. Many, and I would even hazard most, Japanese people seem to enjoy, appreciate, and embrace convenience, efficiency, and novelty. This is not merely limited to a "Westernized" youth culture either.

Statements about "the West" are also untrue in most contexts. I remember spending quite a bit of time in a Japanese language department in an American university hearing privileged white kids with manga fetishes making sweeping statements about why "the West" sucked so much. I don't know but suppose some of them went to Japan for quite a while and likely deemed themselves competent cultural representatives (like pretty much every English teacher working in East Asia).

Yet credulity is surprising...I once told an American that Asians wipe their posteriors right-to-left, and I immediately felt the need to clarify that I was kidding. I've talked to Taiwanese university students that thought Americans have no superstitions because they're so logical and scientifically-minded.

I have seen much of Carter’s video and read much of his writing. He does know a thing or two about knife making and sharpening. And this video is interesting and could be an alternative, if you found yourself in a situation where these were the only tools at hand.

But… do you think this is the method he uses for honing his custom knives?

He may also be a self promoting, advertising genius.

I haven't searched back through the original thread, but is the method that Murray Carter demonstrated in his video similar to what the Japanese do when honing their traditional razors?

Originally Posted by JeffR

I haven't searched back through the original thread, but is the method that Murray Carter demonstrated in his video similar to what the Japanese do when honing their traditional razors?

Nope, not even close!

Originally Posted by JeffR

I haven't searched back through the original thread, but is the method that Murray Carter demonstrated in his video similar to what the Japanese do when honing their traditional razors?

Not even close ... except the part of rubbing steel on stone

Originally Posted by gssixgun

Not even close ... except the part of rubbing steel on stone

I know there had been posted, a couple years back, a translation that someone (maybe JimR?) did of the honing technique of a Japanese craftsman. I tried finding it but my google-fu is weak. Anyone happen to have a link to it?

With all due respect Mr Carter... WHERE'S THE F*CKING TAPE ?!!!!

Originally Posted by bharner

I know there had been posted, a couple years back, a translation that someone (maybe JimR?) did of the honing technique of a Japanese craftsman. I tried finding it but my google-fu is weak. Anyone happen to have a link to it?

This maybe! Honing Razors and Nihonkamisori: Updated. | Eastern Smooth: The Blog

Originally Posted by Lemur

This maybe! Honing Razors and Nihonkamisori: Updated. | Eastern Smooth: The Blog

That's the one! Thanks. And wow. Unless you had that bookmarked my googlefu is really bad. I spent 20 minutes trying to find it last night.